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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 03 Mar 20 12.30pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

Excellent, perceptive post.

And you're right about PVA. Every time he went to take a corner in front of the Newcastle supporters last week he had a broad smile on his face.

...and against Brighton last Saturday. I was by the corner spot where Palace were attacking in the 2nd half and he gave wry smile and knowing nod to the Brighton lot every time he took a corner.

I can understand Wilf's frustration at some of the treatment he gets but it ain't gonna change.I know different players have different mental make ups, but if only Wilf could shake off his victim mode and allow his skills to give him the confidence to play with a smile on his face, and to take the attention he gets from the opposition as a compliment.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Mar 20 12.42pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

...and against Brighton last Saturday. I was by the corner spot where Palace were attacking in the 2nd half and he gave wry smile and knowing nod to the Brighton lot every time he took a corner.

I can understand Wilf's frustration at some of the treatment he gets but it ain't gonna change.I know different players have different mental make ups, but if only Wilf could shake off his victim mode and allow his skills to give him the confidence to play with a smile on his face, and to take the attention he gets from the opposition as a compliment.

It is NOT going to get easier for Zaha against Watford on Saturday and I am sure he is expecting some robust treatment.

Some players get under his skin and I suspect there are players who believe that once Zaha gets frustrated and is constantly complaining about the treatment he is receiving such a mindset reduces his effectiveness.

Edited by Willo (03 Mar 2020 4.01pm)

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Mar 20 12.50pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo


It is NOT going to get easier for Zaha against Watford on Saturday and I am sure he is expecting some robust treatment.

Let's hope that Roy reminds the referee that Troy Deeney said that Watford take it in turns to foul Zaha

 

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View EagleinSF's Profile EagleinSF Flag San Fransisco 03 Mar 20 3.52pm Send a Private Message to EagleinSF Add EagleinSF as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

if only Wilf could shake off his victim mode and allow his skills to give him the confidence to play with a smile on his face,

Bolasie was the best at that. Everytime he got the ball his face split into a huge grin. I miss that!

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 03 Mar 20 5.26pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Sometimes Wilf does well when he's needled, but seldom when teams dish out serious rough stuff without referee intervention. I hope Watford get booked early and often if they do their normal stuff

 


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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 03 Mar 20 5.47pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Sometimes Wilf does well when he's needled, but seldom when teams dish out serious rough stuff without referee intervention. I hope Watford get booked early and often if they do their normal stuff

It is guaranteed that they will rough him up from the get go. Not much the ref can do if they take turns kicking him and just get yellow cards. We just need to give them a taste of their own medicine. I am praying McCarthy starts as he is our only player capable of being nasty and hurting one of theirs.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Mar 20 6.04pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

It is guaranteed that they will rough him up from the get go. Not much the ref can do if they take turns kicking him and just get yellow cards. We just need to give them a taste of their own medicine. I am praying McCarthy starts as he is our only player capable of being nasty and hurting one of theirs.

In actual fact there can be rotational fouling where each foul is not worthy of a yellow card.
I suspect someone will get a yellow on Saturday after a challenge on Zaha.

Capoue, who has clashed with Zaha before, has picked up a yellow against us early this season and in a match last season.Thus far he has picked up 6 yellows, last season he picked up 15 yellows and a red.

Edited by Willo (03 Mar 2020 6.09pm)

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 03 Mar 20 6.44pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

In actual fact there can be rotational fouling where each foul is not worthy of a yellow card.
I suspect someone will get a yellow on Saturday after a challenge on Zaha.

Capoue, who has clashed with Zaha before, has picked up a yellow against us early this season and in a match last season.Thus far he has picked up 6 yellows, last season he picked up 15 yellows and a red.

Edited by Willo (03 Mar 2020 6.09pm)

They will get a couple of yellows for kicking Zaha just like every other team but that will give us no advantage. I’d much rather see us pick up 4 or 5 yellows and hurt a few of their lot.

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 03 Mar 20 7.19pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

They will get a couple of yellows for kicking Zaha just like every other team but that will give us no advantage. I’d much rather see us pick up 4 or 5 yellows and hurt a few of their lot.
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Edited by the silurian (03 Mar 2020 7.21pm)

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 03 Mar 20 7.20pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

They will get a couple of yellows for kicking Zaha just like every other team but that will give us no advantage. I’d much rather see us pick up 4 or 5 yellows and hurt a few of their lot.

seriously hurt them,put them out for a while hurt, Capoue and Deeney for starters....but we all know that Luka, McCarthy or Sakho would be immediately sent off for doing just that!!

Edited by the silurian (03 Mar 2020 7.20pm)

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Safe with 25 goals in 28. But faith in post-Zaha?' by bexleydave

Zaha, without having a great season, has contributed to 8 of those 25. Simple maths tells us that without him the club would have scored only 17.

In the summer it will probably be time to part ways. He doesn't seem to have the same sacrifice for the club (though he is still essetial) and it may be time to accept a good offer.

Do you have faith that the club can transfer a replacement who can do at least as much as Zaha?

The club has not really nailed the transfers in the last years.

Outside of this year, Zaha has contributed to 20 goals from the 51 scored by the clib the previous year.

Even more.....there is talk that 1 or both of Andros Townsend and PVA will have offers that might be accepted in the summer. These are also players who have contributed to more than 13 goals in the last 2 years.

If one of them leaves, coupled with Zaha leaving, the offensive force of the club will be the lowest in the Premier League. Sure, the money coming in (especially from a potential Zaha sale) will make it possible for Palace to brin 1-2 players in. Does Palace have the transfer specialists to replace them?

Jordan Ayew has done a good season, mostly as center forward, but he has 7 goals and 1 assist in 2500 played minutes (only 800 of which on the side, 1700 as center forward).

He needs more goalscorers and creators next to him. It's a terrifying thought to only be left with Jordan Ayew up front in the next season and some more of these central midfielders that Roy uses as attacking ones.

Will Crystal Palace avoid relegation next season with the current managers doing the transfers? Or can we keep Zaha and all will be ok?

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Safe with 25 goals in 28. But faith in post-Zaha?' by bexleydave

Originally posted by mattteo

Zaha, without having a great season, has contributed to 8 of those 25. Simple maths tells us that without him the club would have scored only 17.

In the summer it will probably be time to part ways. He doesn't seem to have the same sacrifice for the club (though he is still essetial) and it may be time to accept a good offer.

Do you have faith that the club can transfer a replacement who can do at least as much as Zaha?

The club has not really nailed the transfers in the last years.

Outside of this year, Zaha has contributed to 20 goals from the 51 scored by the clib the previous year.

Even more.....there is talk that 1 or both of Andros Townsend and PVA will have offers that might be accepted in the summer. These are also players who have contributed to more than 13 goals in the last 2 years.

If one of them leaves, coupled with Zaha leaving, the offensive force of the club will be the lowest in the Premier League. Sure, the money coming in (especially from a potential Zaha sale) will make it possible for Palace to brin 1-2 players in. Does Palace have the transfer specialists to replace them?

Jordan Ayew has done a good season, mostly as center forward, but he has 7 goals and 1 assist in 2500 played minutes (only 800 of which on the side, 1700 as center forward).

He needs more goalscorers and creators next to him. It's a terrifying thought to only be left with Jordan Ayew up front in the next season and some more of these central midfielders that Roy uses as attacking ones.

Will Crystal Palace avoid relegation next season with the current managers doing the transfers? Or can we keep Zaha and all will be ok?

Haven't heard this. Last I heard was Townsend wants to carry on playing for Palace. There were tentative rumours about PVA last season.
I dont think Roy does the transfers which appears to be one of the problems

 

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