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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 18 Apr 18 11.32am Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

I wouldn't say incorrect. They just don't know, couldn't say. Give it a couple of days.

I think they do have a clue though, hence the "horrendous circumstances" quote. But no firm details.

I said according to Amber Rudd. If there were documented cases of it you can bet your bottom dollar they'd be all over the press already.

 


Optimistic as ever

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 18 Apr 18 12.02pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Itís not just the records that were destroyed, the Home Office seems to be making a complete mess of this and it used to be one of our better run departments. At the same time you canít expect ministers to go every time civil servants make a cock up Ė they should go when they are the cause.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Apr 18 12.11pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

No, the Windrush people have been great.

No surprise they are being treated like this then, or really why.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag The toppermost of the poppermost 18 Apr 18 5.16pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Itís not just the records that were destroyed, the Home Office seems to be making a complete mess of this and it used to be one of our better run departments. At the same time you canít expect ministers to go every time civil servants make a cock up Ė they should go when they are the cause.

Ministers are only too happy to take the credit when civil servants actually perform in line with or in excess of expectations, therefore they must take the flack when things go wrong.

 

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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag Lewisham 18 Apr 18 8.10pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Appalling especially when you consider how few criminals and established illegals have been deported. But how many people were even sent the letter?

The boarding card debacle is shocking but contrary to one commentator's suggestion that the burden of proof is on the Home Office, surely the obligation is to retain your own documents. I wouldn't fancy my chances without papers ANYWHERE in the world. But obviously we're such racists and will do anything to sent 7 people back to the Windies while inviting 8,000 Syrians.

 

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View Mr_Gristle's Profile Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 18 Apr 18 10.39pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Guess that's my mistake for believing the words of a minister.

Makes you wonder just how wedded they are to the truth in general, doesn't it :-)

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 19 Apr 18 5.21am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Makes you wonder just how wedded they are to the truth in general, doesn't it :-)

True, though we are only believing the words of a minister that any have been deported.

But the point that politicians are not that reliable is a valid one.....A truism as old as the hills.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 19 Apr 18 7.38am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Ministers are only too happy to take the credit when civil servants actually perform in line with or in excess of expectations, therefore they must take the flack when things go wrong.

I'll give you flack, just not a resigning issue for me, unless there's been some misleading too.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Apr 18 8.34am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend


What a bellend.


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View npn's Profile npn Flag Crowborough 19 Apr 18 8.41am Send a Private Message to npn Add npn as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, the Windrush people have been great.

No surprise they are being treated like this then, or really why.

Can you fill me in on the 'why'?

 

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View npn's Profile npn Flag Crowborough 19 Apr 18 8.41am Send a Private Message to npn Add npn as a friend


As far as I see it this is a combination of two things:

1. Administrative cock-up in the 70s leaving the Windrush dependents without documentation proving their right to remain (I'd have gone further and granted them all citizenship, but that's just me)

2. May's adoption of an aggressive environment for illegal immigrants - that, in my opinion, is a completely correct policy. illegals should be feeling unwelcome and under threat of deportation, and there should be at least some level of responsibility on employers to ensure the people they are hiring are legal residents. The point is that (as in 1) these people should not be showing as illegals

If 1 hadn't happened, 2 is not an issue.

It seems there are attempts from all over the place to make this party political, whereas it's been an issue, unaddressed by any side, for over 40 years, it's just more robust policing of illegals has brought it to the fore and it should hopefully now be addressed (finally)

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 19 Apr 18 9.26am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The hostile immigration environment Theresa May set out to create when she was at the Home Office was regarded by some ministers as ďalmost reminiscent of Nazi GermanyĒ in the way it is working, the former head of the civil service, Lord Kerslake, has said.

So much for 'oversights' and 'clerical errors'........

 

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