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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Apr 18 11.25am
Originally posted by steeleye20 He was Turkish. I don't think that is relevant. He is the patron saint of England and it is documented that we have celebrated that as far back as Alfred The Great. My comments to every Englishman is not some racist code. I would not offer salutations to a non English person on our national day unless I knew they celebrated it. Likewise I would not tell a Muslim or Jew they should celebrate Christmas. It was a simple good luck to all those who wish to celebrate it. As to how we got to have St George as a patron Saint I leave that to more educated people he is and we do. Edited by Badger11 (23 Apr 2018 11.26am) One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 23 Apr 18 11.25am

Originally posted by steeleye20

He was Turkish.

I don't think that is relevant. He is the patron saint of England and it is documented that we have celebrated that as far back as Alfred The Great. My comments to every Englishman is not some racist code. I would not offer salutations to a non English person on our national day unless I knew they celebrated it. Likewise I would not tell a Muslim or Jew they should celebrate Christmas. It was a simple good luck to all those who wish to celebrate it.

As to how we got to have St George as a patron Saint I leave that to more educated people he is and we do.

Edited by Badger11 (23 Apr 2018 11.26am)

One more point

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Stuk Top half 23 Apr 18 11.49am
The Scots and Irish already get their days off anyway. But yes it's another attempt to bribe for votes. Shakespeare was born and died on this date, so you celebrate that instead if you like. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 23 Apr 18 11.49am

The Scots and Irish already get their days off anyway. But yes it's another attempt to bribe for votes.

Shakespeare was born and died on this date, so you celebrate that instead if you like.

Optimistic as ever

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Apr 18 12.24pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 He was Turkish. What is your ancestry steeleye?
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23 Apr 18 12.24pm

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Originally posted by steeleye20

He was Turkish.

What is your ancestry steeleye?

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wizlon ... 23 Apr 18 12.34pm
St George = Palestinian. St Patrick = British. St David = Welsh. St Andrew = Galilean. St Wilf = Ivorian. I'll raise a glass to the whole bunch. HOMO SAPIENS NON URINAT IN VENTUM
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... 23 Apr 18 12.34pm

St George = Palestinian.

St Patrick = British.

St David = Welsh.

St Andrew = Galilean.

St Wilf = Ivorian.

I'll raise a glass to the whole bunch.

HOMO SAPIENS NON URINAT IN VENTUM

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Apr 18 12.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Don't be dim. The native 'English' themselves come from various parts of northern Europe. The actual 'Saint' George isn't about the real person at all. It's a mythological symbol. Just like the English hymn Jerusalem sings about Jesus walking on our green and pleasant lands. You just don't get it.....You obviously weren't raised with any sense of historical English culture. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Apr 2018 10.52am) King Arthur was probably Welsh, Churchill was half American and the Queen is German. Many of us have Scandinavian, German and Irish genes and the rest, so Britishness isn't really about the constituent parts but commonality. The desire to feel as one under a flag for the mutual benefit a sense of belonging. Some clearly do not share that desire and wish to live seperately and with no love for the country at all. They should leave as soon as possible.
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Hrolf The Ganger

23 Apr 18 12.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Don't be dim.

The native 'English' themselves come from various parts of northern Europe.

The actual 'Saint' George isn't about the real person at all. It's a mythological symbol.

Just like the English hymn Jerusalem sings about Jesus walking on our green and pleasant lands.

You just don't get it.....You obviously weren't raised with any sense of historical English culture.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Apr 2018 10.52am)

King Arthur was probably Welsh, Churchill was half American and the Queen is German. Many of us have Scandinavian, German and Irish genes and the rest, so Britishness isn't really about the constituent parts but commonality. The desire to feel as one under a flag for the mutual benefit a sense of belonging. Some clearly do not share that desire and wish to live seperately and with no love for the country at all. They should leave as soon as possible.

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mezzer Online Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 23 Apr 18 12.54pm
Mike England was Welsh Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 23 Apr 18 12.54pm

Mike England was Welsh

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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steeleye20 Croydon 23 Apr 18 12.58pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger King Arthur was probably Welsh, Churchill was half American and the Queen is German. Many of us have Scandinavian, German and Irish genes and the rest, so Britishness isn't really about the constituent parts but commonality. The desire to feel as one under a flag for the mutual benefit a sense of belonging. Some clearly do not share that desire and wish to live seperately and with no love for the country at all. They should leave as soon as possible. 'Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel'.
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steeleye20

Croydon 23 Apr 18 12.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

'Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel'.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Apr 18 1.06pm
It�s a boy! COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Apr 18 1.06pm

It�s a boy!

COYP

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 23 Apr 18 2.25pm
So we can't even have an English Patron Saint. BI00dy immigrants "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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So we can't even have an English Patron Saint.

BI00dy immigrants

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Apr 18 2.35pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel'. Patriotism is a display. It is not what commonality is about in practical terms. I admit that it is hard to describe what 'Britishness' in any specific way but it is a lot easier to describe those who work against Britain from within.
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Hrolf The Ganger

23 Apr 18 2.35pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel'.

Patriotism is a display. It is not what commonality is about in practical terms. I admit that it is hard to describe what 'Britishness' in any specific way but it is a lot easier to describe those who work against Britain from within.

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Stirlingsays 23 Apr 18 2.54pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 'Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel'. That is probably the most mis-quoted quote of all time. Made by Samuel Johnson and he was referring to false patriotism.....not actually the concept of patriotism. The far left have been misusing that quote for life times. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Apr 2018 2.55pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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