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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Apr 18 11.36am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

You have all been had by Mrs May.

It is a naked political move to cover her tracks and appeal to black voters in the wake of Windrush.

I am against having a day like this, regardless of colour, it will only perpetuate this awful event, the mother Mrs.Lawrence wants to 'draw a line' after 25 years but now there will be the opposite, forensically examined each April and the community ever further from healing.

The public are not responsible for what happened at all and should not bear any guilt imposed by Mrs May.

I will not be observing it personally or any other of Mrs May's micro managing of people's lives.

She can get stuffed.

I think we all know exactly why May is doing this. It is just another loopy extension of pandering to minorities for votes with no concern for the rights or feelings of the majority.
Any opposition to this madness is being undermind by the stupid liberal/left and, of course, the growing minority lobby.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 24 Apr 18 11.46am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

BBC's Question Time likes to think it allows audiences to put difficult questions to it's panel, but I bet it won't allow 'Does the panel really think the Stephen Lawrence murder merits a memorial day?'

 

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View beagle's Profile beagle Flag pom tiddly om pom pom 24 Apr 18 1.16pm Send a Private Message to beagle Add beagle as a friend

Originally posted by bryne and holton

This cannot be true.

Do we as a nation ignore

Blakelock
Lee Rigby
Yvonne Fletcher
Mountbatten

They should all have "days" as well

All those died in horrific headline-grabbing circumstances. Front page news, all of them. Lawrence died in a grubby, murky stabbing in Eltham and yet his name lives on. That's because Lawrence's murder was unique to those others as the wider issue that came out was the whole issue of Police institutional racism as outlined in the MacPherson report.

An issue whose rancid odour still permeates UK institutions - Windrush being an ongoing example.

To my mind, thats the point of a memorial day - not Lawrence per se.

Having said that Im against the idea of a 'Stephen Lawrence memorial day' as the idea is confusing. The confusion will only make it contentious.


 


When the time comes, I want die just like my Dad - at peace and asleep.
Not screaming and terrified.
Like his passengers.

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 24 Apr 18 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

I'd sooner see an Anti knife crime day...that'd be far more relevant and widely received

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Apr 18 1.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by beagle

All those died in horrific headline-grabbing circumstances. Front page news, all of them. Lawrence died in a grubby, murky stabbing in Eltham and yet his name lives on. That's because Lawrence's murder was unique to those others as the wider issue that came out was the whole issue of Police institutional racism as outlined in the MacPherson report.

An issue whose rancid odour still permeates UK institutions - Windrush being an ongoing example.

To my mind, thats the point of a memorial day - not Lawrence per se.

Having said that Im against the idea of a 'Stephen Lawrence memorial day' as the idea is confusing. The confusion will only make it contentious.



I'd say the Lawrence murder and subsequent investigation is more significant because of what has happened to street crime since then. It has soared to unparalleled heights with more Black people being murdered by other Black people than ever before.
It seems the Black community has more to worry about from within that any amount of so called police racism.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Apr 18 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

BBC's Question Time likes to think it allows audiences to put difficult questions to it's panel, but I bet it won't allow 'Does the panel really think the Stephen Lawrence murder merits a memorial day?'

I don't think that's a difficult question to answer for the panel. They will all be lining up to outdo each over in saying its a great idea.

 


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View fromtherope's Profile fromtherope Flag In the woods of deepest Surrey 24 Apr 18 4.27pm Send a Private Message to fromtherope Add fromtherope as a friend

I am fed up with this government pandering to the minorities at every turn. an SL day is a complete joke. Wouldn't be surprised if the new royal baby is names Arthur, Stephen, Lawrence, Windrush Cambridge.

Giving compensation to Windrush "victims" will just create a whole stream of claims for those looking to make a quick quid and dupe our useless authorities. Just look at the scams going on following Grenfell.

It is easy to forget all those who have died at the evil hands of others, this list is far too long to make here but in this age of social media it is easy for antagonists, left wing loonies, do gooders and the like to create a sh*t storm of invect, abuse and noise to jump on bandwagons they know little about.

And to announce it on St George's Day of all days. A sad indictment of a once great nation.

Edited by fromtherope (24 Apr 2018 4.28pm)

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 24 Apr 18 5.18pm

Originally posted by fromtherope

I am fed up with this government pandering to the minorities at every turn. an SL day is a complete joke. Wouldn't be surprised if the new royal baby is names Arthur, Stephen, Lawrence, Windrush Cambridge.

Giving compensation to Windrush "victims" will just create a whole stream of claims for those looking to make a quick quid and dupe our useless authorities. Just look at the scams going on following Grenfell.

It is easy to forget all those who have died at the evil hands of others, this list is far too long to make here but in this age of social media it is easy for antagonists, left wing loonies, do gooders and the like to create a sh*t storm of invect, abuse and noise to jump on bandwagons they know little about.

And to announce it on St George's Day of all days. A sad indictment of a once great nation.

Edited by fromtherope (24 Apr 2018 4.28pm)

once great indeed!

 

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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 24 Apr 18 5.54pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

i just get the point of it, is it so us white liberals can pretend everything is ok now, that racism doesnt still exist? what next a mark duggan day? as mentioned why not a keith blakelock day?

Edited by thegreatlardino (24 Apr 2018 5.56pm)

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Apr 18 6.15pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

i just get the point of it, is it so us white liberals can pretend everything is ok now, that racism doesnt still exist? what next a mark duggan day? as mentioned why not a keith blakelock day?

Edited by thegreatlardino (24 Apr 2018 5.56pm)


The only holiday the country needs is a no more Mrs May Day.

 

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View beagle's Profile beagle Flag pom tiddly om pom pom 24 Apr 18 6.57pm Send a Private Message to beagle Add beagle as a friend

Originally posted by fromtherope

I am fed up with this government pandering to the minorities at every turn. an SL day is a complete joke. Wouldn't be surprised if the new royal baby is names Arthur, Stephen, Lawrence, Windrush Cambridge.

Giving compensation to Windrush "victims" will just create a whole stream of claims for those looking to make a quick quid and dupe our useless authorities. Just look at the scams going on following Grenfell.

It is easy to forget all those who have died at the evil hands of others, this list is far too long to make here but in this age of social media it is easy for antagonists, left wing loonies, do gooders and the like to create a sh*t storm of invect, abuse and noise to jump on bandwagons they know little about.

And to announce it on St George's Day of all days. A sad indictment of a once great nation.

Edited by fromtherope (24 Apr 2018 4.28pm)

If a minority (or a majority for that matter) has been wronged then putting that right should be considered a moral obligation. Executing one's moral obligation is never 'pandering'.

The idea of not compensating Windrush victims on the basis that, as yet, only two people (Joyce Msokeri and Anh Nhu Nguyen) have been convicted of fraud in relation to Grenfell seems ludicrous. Hardly an epidemic of fraud.

As I'm sure you're aware, St George was of Greek parentage, born in Turkey and brought up in Palestine. As this debate seems centred around ethnicity, it seems entirely appropriate to announce it on St George's day.

 


When the time comes, I want die just like my Dad - at peace and asleep.
Not screaming and terrified.
Like his passengers.

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View Blue'n'red's Profile Blue'n'red Flag Field of Chels (Orpington) 24 Apr 18 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Blue'n'red Add Blue'n'red as a friend

Hasn’t the mother done very well out of this palaver ... yes she lost her son but she’s now a Dame and has gone from a gritty council house to a large country house somewhere? If anything SHE is the only person to benefit from this ... at her deceased son’s expense.

 


They say hard work never hurt anyone ... but why take a chance?

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