Trump and the Iran deal
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 Stirlingsays  15 May 18 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If only it was my planet........ Alas - But it is Trump's planet and who knows what his true mental state of mind is. Signs himself off medically no surprise there. Always thought democracy would end up with some loony doing us all in. No point getting a season ticket is there....
I heard this from the usual loonies when Trump first got elected.....they honestly thought he was Hitler (even though Obama was war-like and Clinton wanted involvement in Syria protecting airspace). Listen to Dr Stirling. Take your medicine and understand that there is not going to be a world war or invasions from Trump. Not only have all the loony left's predictions on Trump been wrong so far in two years time you will also probably suffer the embarrassment of losing to him again.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 15 May 18 2.36pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If only it was my planet........ Alas - But it is Trump's planet and who knows what his true mental state of mind is. Signs himself off medically no surprise there. Always thought democracy would end up with some loony doing us all in. No point getting a season ticket is there....
I spoke to soon. Your last communication was garbled. It made no sense at all.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 15 May 18 6.10pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I'll give you two: Paul Mason and Owen Jones. Edited by Penge Eagle (15 May 2018 8.17am) It’s funny that you seem to think you can have your cake and eat it. Neither of them are Marxists, neither of them identify as Marxists, neither of them have ever been in an organisation which identifies as Marxist as far as I know. You have conflated being left wing with being a Marxist, at the same time as complaining about people who assume all right wingers are Fascists! As for Polly Toynbee being a Marxist...I only assume you have never read the writings of either her or Marx!
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| Stirlingsays 15 May 18 6.24pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
It’s funny that you seem to think you can have your cake and eat it. Neither of them are Marxists, neither of them identify as Marxists, neither of them have ever been in an organisation which identifies as Marxist as far as I know. You have conflated being left wing with being a Marxist, at the same time as complaining about people who assume all right wingers are Fascists! As for Polly Toynbee being a Marxist...I only assume you have never read the writings of either her or Marx! I've read enough of Polly Toynbee to know that she's a cultural Marxist. A pure Marxist perhaps not....like most champagne socialists/marxists, it's equality for you but advantage for me. For sure, me and Hrolf are only doing what countless lefties on here have been doing for years now and labelling people. I did mine deliberately as a wind up to wait for a response like yours. Remind me, how many posts did you write complaining about the labelling of the right as fascists/racists and so on here on Hol...when that happened? Went a bit quiet then didn't you....weren't interested. But suddenly when it's your political tribe you get the urge to tap in a post. I don't blame you.....it's human nature......but I just enjoy pointing it out. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 May 2018 6.27pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 15 May 18 7.33pm |
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Unfortunately Polly B not a convert to marxism, despite attending a coffee morning in Islington 20 years ago. It's the tupperware it gets to you in the end Tovarisch Steeleye
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| Stirlingsays 15 May 18 7.43pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Unfortunately Polly B not a convert to marxism, despite attending a coffee morning in Islington 20 years ago. It's the tupperware it gets to you in the end Tovarisch Steeleye Probably never given a blowjob....hates men too much. Mind you I bet it's been thirty years since she's held anything stiff...... other than a pen....and I bet she even turns them limp. It's true....I'm not a fan. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 May 2018 7.44pm)
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 15 May 18 9.21pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
It’s funny that you seem to think you can have your cake and eat it. Neither of them are Marxists, neither of them identify as Marxists, neither of them have ever been in an organisation which identifies as Marxist as far as I know. You have conflated being left wing with being a Marxist, at the same time as complaining about people who assume all right wingers are Fascists! As for Polly Toynbee being a Marxist...I only assume you have never read the writings of either her or Marx! If you re-read my post, I wasn't making a point that all journalists or all lefties were Marxsists. I was trying to make the point that regular right wingers are always viewed as extreme. Anyway, to Owen Jones... Go to 50 seconds in on this YouTube interview with him: [Link] [Tweet Link]
An a long article written by Paul Mason: 'Why Marx is more relevant than ever in the age of automation' [Link] Polly Toynbee's dad was the first communist president of the Oxford Union and a Marxist... Edited by Penge Eagle (15 May 2018 9.45pm)
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 04 Jun 18 7.02pm |
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Tweet from Iran’s Supreme Leader. So much for being 'moderate' – he's very clear of his intentions. And people rip into Trump for trying to stop Iran from nuclearising... [Tweet Link]
Edited by Penge Eagle (04 Jun 2018 7.04pm)
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Jun 18 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Tweet from Iran’s Supreme Leader. So much for being 'moderate' – he's very clear of his intentions. And people rip into Trump for trying to stop Iran from nuclearising... [Tweet Link]
Edited by Penge Eagle (04 Jun 2018 7.04pm) If I was him, I'd be more concerned about being surrounded by Sunni moslem countries who want to do something very similar to him and his fellow shi'ites. Wherever there's islam, aggro isn't far away.
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| .TUX. 04 Jun 18 10.13pm |
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Personally i believe that Trump's doing a good job.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Jun 18 3.15pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Personally i believe that Trump's doing a good job. 100% agree.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 10 Jun 18 5.11pm |
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With respect to the Iran deal Trump could not have done the world and especially the SA, a worst disservice. Not essentially because of enriching uranium but in betraying the trust which took 9 years to build now all over because of one man. The USA Israel and coalition have overwhelming military superiority but not mentally and terrorism and hatred for the west seen as oppressors randomly dropping bombs on innocent civilians which is the truth as in Raqqa, is not so difficult to understand now. How will they respond, some time ahead new outrages on western streets, 9/11 again who knows. We have seen these things in our casual bombing of Libya Iraq now Syria (as if they hadn't suffered enough) but learnt nothing. In WW2 the bombing of Dresden was widely condemned but at least we were actually at war with Germany, not just innocent women and children.
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