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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 May 18 10.11am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Lakeview

I heard one commentator this week say "They've been a breath of fresh air in the Premiership." This was obviously complete rubbish, as they are a dirty/survival at all costs side ( maybe as we were perceived under T.P) and their football is not great to watch. Pundits seem determined to say the most predictable & expected things whether it's palpably false or not. In terms of next season: I can't see Huddersfield being anywhere other than bottom 6 all season. This season's relegated 3 certainly shows promoted sides can do better than expected.

We have on average committed 11.22 fouls per game (15th in PL) whereas Huddersfield have committed 10.41 fouls per game, 11th in PL.

We have picked up 69 yellow cards to Huddersfield's 60, but they have received 3 red cards.

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chateauferret Flag 12 May 18 10.14am

Originally posted by Willo

We have on average committed 11.22 fouls per game (15th in PL) whereas Huddersfield have committed 10.41 fouls per game, 11th in PL.

No point in quoting statistics to do with decisions made by referees when the quality of these decisions all season has been so miserably poor. When you see Wilf booked for an obvious penalty the other week you realise that the number of decisions given by referees is in no sense an indicator of the grubbiness or otherwise of a team's play, let alone the fact that you haven't counted decisions for simple accidental trips and collisions that in no way reflect a team's attitude or general discipline. You are bound for example to commit more fouls if you spend much of the game out of possession, as we frequently do.

It's established fact that some teams, such as Huddersfield, Bournemouth and Watford, have deliberately targeted particular players (Wilf) with aggressive and unfair challenges with at best clear disregard for their safety, and that referees have done f*** all to prevent it. The Watford game the other week was a clear example.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 May 18 10.23am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

No point in quoting statistics to do with decisions made by referees when the quality of these decisions all season has been so miserably poor. When you see Wilf booked for an obvious penalty the other week you realise that the number of decisions given by referees is in no sense an indicator of the grubbiness or otherwise of a team's play, let alone the fact that you haven't counted decisions for simple accidental trips and collisions that in no way reflect a team's attitude or general discipline. You are bound for example to commit more fouls if you spend much of the game out of possession, as we frequently do.

It's established fact that some teams, such as Huddersfield, Bournemouth and Watford, have deliberately targeted particular players (Wilf) with aggressive and unfair challenges with at best clear disregard for their safety, and that referees have done f*** all to prevent it. The Watford game the other week was a clear example.

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Edited by chateauferret (12 May 2018 10.19am)

You have by quoting the red cards !!!!!

And I totally disagree with your view regarding the overall quality of refereeing this season which of course won't be a surprise to you.

We have had this debate before so let's not derail this thread by gallivanting down the path of the performance of the referees and concentrate on the subject matter.

 

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chateauferret Flag 12 May 18 10.24am

Originally posted by Willo

You have by quoting the red cards !!!!!

And I totally disagree with your view regarding the overall quality of refereeing this season which of course won't be a surprise to you.

We have had this debate before so let's not derail this thread by gallivanting down the path of the performance of the referees and concentrate on the subject matter.

Tell me where it says anything about red cards?

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 May 18 10.28am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret


Tell me where it says anything about red cards?

I edited my post by adding the Red card count only to then discover that there was a subsequent post highlighting that Palace had received 0 and Huddersfield 3.This post has now mysteriously disappeared.Was this not your post ?

 

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chateauferret Flag 12 May 18 10.49am

Originally posted by Willo

I edited my post by adding the Red card count only to then discover that there was a subsequent post highlighting that Palace had received 0 and Huddersfield 3.This post has now mysteriously disappeared.Was this not your post ?

I realised as pointed out above it's irrelevant. How many times have we seen players commit obvious red card fouls against ours and get booked at worst?

Looks like your new troll subject is "We play dirtier than Huddersfield". Fill your boots.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 May 18 11.03am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret


I realised as pointed out above it's irrelevant. How many times have we seen players commit obvious red card fouls against ours and get booked at worst?

Looks like your new troll subject is "We play dirtier than Huddersfield". Fill your boots.

I certainly don't 'Troll' nor goad and bait looking for a response.

I have just been stating FACTS with no underlying message at all so I am not inferring that we are the "Dirtier" side etc etc.In fact I balanced the fact that we had a greater foul count with the fact that Huddersfield had received 3 Red cards and we all know we haven't received one.

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 12 May 18 11.27am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

No point in quoting statistics to do with decisions made by referees when the quality of these decisions all season has been so miserably poor.

I tell you guys.....I've been watching a lot of European football. Most leagues. Honeslty, the refereeing in the PL is BY FAR THE BEST I've seen.

You're angry because it has been bad? Just look at the other leagues! Their refereeing is atrocious, garbage. They whistle every 30 seconds and stop the game A LOT, to the point that there is no more football. There are penalties awarded for the softest tackle, while in the PL at least referees try to avoid giving away penalties.

At least in the PL the refs allow fluency of the game and it shows, it's the most entertaining league.

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chateauferret Flag 12 May 18 2.16pm

Originally posted by mattteo

I tell you guys.....I've been watching a lot of European football. Most leagues. Honeslty, the refereeing in the PL is BY FAR THE BEST I've seen.

You're angry because it has been bad? Just look at the other leagues! Their refereeing is atrocious, garbage. They whistle every 30 seconds and stop the game A LOT, to the point that there is no more football. There are penalties awarded for the softest tackle, while in the PL at least referees try to avoid giving away penalties.

At least in the PL the refs allow fluency of the game and it shows, it's the most entertaining league.

Edited by mattteo (12 May 2018 11.27am)

Kavanagh certainly did a good job of not giving any penalties when he booked Wilf following a stonewall foul in the penalty area. Not sure I'd say "never gives any penalties" was necessarily a good criterion for selecting referees.

Well we watch quite a bit of La Liga in this house and I think our refs are definitely worse than theirs. And I just asked my son whether La Liga refs were better or worse than ours and he asked whether this was a trick question or some sort of joke. I'll have a look at the DFB-Pokal Final next week and see if their ref does a better job than Cl****f*** did at the last FA Cup Final that was actually worth watching.

Nothing you say relates to the actual correctness of decisions according to the Laws. Officials elsewhere may have different approaches and different directives to follow, and perhaps you can criticise the entertainment that results, but how do they compare when it comes to decisions that are just plain f***ing wrong?

 


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View Lakeview's Profile Lakeview Flag Lincoln 13 May 18 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Lakeview Add Lakeview as a friend

The points for survival-figure ends at only 34 this season. Great to see us on 44 as things stand against West Brom.

 

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In my years of watching PL football, i haven’t seen a worse player than renato sanches

 


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Originally posted by Lakeview

The points for survival-figure ends at only 34 this season. Great to see us on 44 as things stand against West Brom.

Yes - I noticed that figure. I wonder if in future that the figure of 34 will be quoted in the points needed to stay up this season or the 36 that were achieved? I suspect the latter.

 

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