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View BarEagle's Profile BarEagle Flag Monmouth 13 May 18 1.31pm Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

I love Roy’s style of play. His professionalism, his calm attitude and that he loves the club. He is building a top 7 team.

However, what Pulis achieved with our squad was absolutely remarkable. He turned water into wine. It was truly phenomenal.

Pulis by a country mile.

 

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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 13 May 18 9.46pm Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Hodgson.

Pulis and Allardyce might have both started with ‘worse’ squads, but both had the luxury of splashing the cash in January and bringing in players.

Not only did Roy rely almost entirely on our existing squad, he also had a horrible injury crisis to deal with.

As effective as the other two were, Hodgson has also done it by getting us to play some lovely football. We’ve scored some beautiful team goals this season. His style of play is finally allowing us to take points off the teams we ‘should’ beat. In the past we’ve stayed up knicking results at Anfield or Stamford Bridge, but then losing at home to Burnley etc.

This season we still played well against the big boys, and with a fully fit squad and a bit of luck might have knicked at least one of those games, but we finally seem like we can unlock teams who come to Selhurst for a point.

In terms of development it’s actually a massive step, and exactly what Parish was looking for in the summer.

Also, I’m sure it’s been mentioned already, but although it went very south in the end, Pardew’s first six months were very impressive and should be counted in this discussion. The end of the second Warnock era was comfortbaly the worst I think we’ve played since being back in the Prem. That home loss to Southampton was truly abysmal.

 


Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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View PalacePhotoMan's Profile PalacePhotoMan Flag Wallington 13 May 18 9.57pm Send a Private Message to PalacePhotoMan Add PalacePhotoMan as a friend

Originally posted by Username

Hodgson.

Pulis and Allardyce might have both started with ‘worse’ squads, but both had the luxury of splashing the cash in January and bringing in players.

Not only did Roy rely almost entirely on our existing squad, he also had a horrible injury crisis to deal with.

As effective as the other two were, Hodgson has also done it by getting us to play some lovely football. We’ve scored some beautiful team goals this season. His style of play is finally allowing us to take points off the teams we ‘should’ beat. In the past we’ve stayed up knicking results at Anfield or Stamford Bridge, but then losing at home to Burnley etc.

This season we still played well against the big boys, and with a fully fit squad and a bit of luck might have knicked at least one of those games, but we finally seem like we can unlock teams who come to Selhurst for a point.

In terms of development it’s actually a massive step, and exactly what Parish was looking for in the summer.

Also, I’m sure it’s been mentioned already, but although it went very south in the end, Pardew’s first six months were very impressive and should be counted in this discussion. The end of the second Warnock era was comfortbaly the worst I think we’ve played since being back in the Prem. That home loss to Southampton was truly abysmal.


Sorry but this season's opening day v Huddersfield, followed by the defeat v Swansea, were the worst 2 matches I've seen here for years. You are right that the Southampton game under Warnock was bad, but to start a season in total disarray with the talent we had on show today available, was unforgivable. RH has turned the season round using the same players available to the Dutch clown, showing him what was possible with this team playing to its strengths and despite our one true centre forward being woefully out of form. It's been nothing short of miraculous.

 


Zaha, Williams, Murray, Ambrose, Scannell.

A 5-man forward line who scored 3 goals in 10 minutes on 27th September 2011 at .......................

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 18 10.05pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

He did, but moving Wilfred into a central role along with Andros worked a treat. Which many on here lambasted...

Nobody lambasted it because we had no striker to select. It was having no striker as back up that was lambasted.

On which was the best achievement I’d rather leave all of them deserving their merit but Hodgson has us playing the best football. However he now has the issue of possibly 2 midfielders not being here next season.

 


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View fozzaisere's Profile fozzaisere Flag 13 May 18 10.53pm Send a Private Message to fozzaisere Add fozzaisere as a friend

Pulis - our squad when he took us on was poor.

 

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View Cy Bais's Profile Cy Bais Flag Minneapolis MN 13 May 18 11.51pm Send a Private Message to Cy Bais Add Cy Bais as a friend

I'd say Roy because we looked good beating the drop. :-)

 

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View Eternal Optimist's Profile Eternal Optimist Flag Kentlyn 14 May 18 12.51am Send a Private Message to Eternal Optimist Add Eternal Optimist as a friend

Here is a thought to ponder. If you do the maths, if CP's results from the 8th match onwards had been replicated over the whole season we would have finished where Burnley finished (not sure how the goal difference would have stacked up). So CP might have been playing in Europe next year!

As for who deserves the credit I think it should go to the Board for making the hard decisions about sacking managers and finding new, really effective ones. The obvious concern is why did successive managers burn out or leave?

 

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View BarEagle's Profile BarEagle Flag Monmouth 14 May 18 1.45am Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eternal Optimist

Here is a thought to ponder. If you do the maths, if CP's results from the 8th match onwards had been replicated over the whole season we would have finished where Burnley finished (not sure how the goal difference would have stacked up). So CP might have been playing in Europe next year!

As for who deserves the credit I think it should go to the Board for making the hard decisions about sacking managers and finding new, really effective ones. The obvious concern is why did successive managers burn out or leave?

Because they clash with Steve Parish. There is no other answer.

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 14 May 18 4.28am Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

Because they clash with Steve Parish. There is no other answer.

Well actually there is

Holloway, who resigned, and Warnock cannot hack it in the Premier League. Pardew lasted here similar times as at other clubs and a good deal longer than at WBA

I suspect Pulis wanted more control on transfers and may have been after another 'keep us up bonus' Allardyce was just in it for the money. He found another dupe in Everton and is no doubt looking forward to being terminated so that he can 'rescue' another team next season

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 14 May 18 6.14am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

Because they clash with Steve Parish. There is no other answer.

Originally posted by pssguy

I suspect Pulis wanted more control on transfers and may have been after another 'keep us up bonus' Allardyce was just in it for the money. He found another dupe in Everton and is no doubt looking forward to being terminated so that he can 'rescue' another team next season

As BarEagle said, there is no other explanation although some may come up with some daft conspiracy theories

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 14 May 18 6.36am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

As BarEagle said, there is no other explanation although some may come up with some daft conspiracy theories


I agree, but the real proof will be what happens with Roy and the transfer window that opens this week. If Parish is intending to be as 'hands on' as he been so far, he doesn't have time for his usual five holidays.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 14 May 18 7.21am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


If Parish is intending to be as 'hands on' as he been so far, he doesn't have time for his usual five holidays.

Be fair one of last year's holidays was a working holiday as he went to Ibiza to extend Zaha's contract.

This June he will be flying out to Kavos to sign a new contract with Cabaye then on to Magaluf to do the same with Hennessy then on to Malia to sort out the next one.

It's a busy life being a football chairman

 

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