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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Back in the jug agane 17 May 18 9.10pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by SwordFish

What is wrong with you? Why be so sarcastic all the time? Soon enough no one will post on here

Couldn’t agree more.

 

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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Moved Again.. Banstead now Darling... 17 May 18 10.24pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

The police liaison officer for Brighton says that Sussex police is a 'learning organisation'...... sorry as far as I knew Sussex police wasn't just formed a year ago was it??... it's been around for donkeys years..

 


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View OhthisbloodyPC's Profile OhthisbloodyPC Flag 18 May 18 7.10am Send a Private Message to OhthisbloodyPC Add OhthisbloodyPC as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

The police liaison officer for Brighton says that Sussex police is a 'learning organisation'...... sorry as far as I knew Sussex police wasn't just formed a year ago was it??... it's been around for donkeys years..

I found that nauseating too. It's a glib management speak cliche that they've issued without any thought. It makes them look stupid.

Do they really need to 'learn' that making up false allegations about fans carrying knuckledusters and knives is unprofessional?

Is the fact that they got easily caught out lying going to be one of those 'lessons learned'?

If these are aspects of policing that they are still learning, you wonder why they were ever appointed for the job in the first place. There must be more intelligent, experienced and wise candidates for this work.

If they are still 'learning' the basics, God help the people of Sussex.

 

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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Normandy 18 May 18 7.15am Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

You know perfectly well, but I'll spell it out for you. It's because Manchester United probably (I can't prove it) has a bigger proportion of so-called supporters who live nowhere near the club's ground, but who would rather bathe in reflected glory than support their own local side, than any other club in Britain. If someone in France supports Palace, it's because he has a tradition of supporting them for good family or historical reasons.

Thanks JRW2, you're absolutely right and I couldn't have put it better myself, so I won't try.

 

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View gambler's Profile gambler Flag Kent 18 May 18 7.17am Send a Private Message to gambler Add gambler as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Why is a Manchester United supporter living in Brighton any different from a Crystal Palace supporter living in Normandy?

If you don't know then I doubt you're even a football fan.

 

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View kenbarr's Profile kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 18 May 18 7.48am Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

Reading the article has me thinking the Sussex Police have an attitude similar to West Midlands and South Yorkshire. This nonsense about complaints have to come from individuals rather than "pressure groups" is a total cop-out. CPST, like all supporters trusts, are recognised representatives of supporters.

There may come a time when, sadly, Palace supporters may have to boycott the AMEX unless a serious dialog between the CPST/Palace Supporters groups and the Sussex Police.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 18 May 18 8.19am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

it's a group of people trying to protect themselves. most such individuals aren't objective when their own actions are being seriously called into question. but i imagine the handling of the game -- and the complaints -- are being carefully monitored by the wider police force at large.

 

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Originally posted by bexleydave


It's the IOPC that are saying that, not Sussex Police. Perhaps the solicitors employed by CPST should have checked the procedures for complaints in advance of submitting it?

If a complaint is recorded by Sussex police and they think there is a case then they have to refer it to the IOPC.

Perhaps you should check what your facts before submitting another pointless post

 

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View manwitheagletattoo's Profile manwitheagletattoo Flag Devon Exeter 18 May 18 10.17am Send a Private Message to manwitheagletattoo Add manwitheagletattoo as a friend

I can not show the solicitors name on this advert just in case there is some legal connection. But the group of Palace supporters had legal advice to follow through with this complaint. Surely it was on their solicitors advice, ( who know the law ) that they had a case against the Police and as it state here the Police are legally required to contact the IOPC as there is a complaint against them.


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Role of the Independent Office for Police Conduct (“IOPC”)

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Originally posted by SwordFish

What is wrong with you? Why be so sarcastic all the time? Soon enough no one will post on here

I thought it was a perfectly logical question

 


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Originally posted by Sansbup

Thanks JRW2, you're absolutely right and I couldn't have put it better myself, so I won't try.

And because of course a Palace fan in exile will get as far bathing in the club's "reflected glory" as he would bathing in a tub of s***e. Palace fans and United fans couldn't be more different creatures.

 


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Originally posted by turbohorsebox

I thought it was a perfectly logical question

It is if you know f*** all about football.

On the matter of boycotting the Amex I should have thought that the fact that it is the weed home ground was reason enough in itself. Unofortunately if you want to play football with a pig, the pig loves it and you get covered in s***. That's life.

 


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