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Originally posted by Slimey Toad

There's being honest and saying it like it is, and just being stupid. Why the damn? I know it's only one word but the rest of what he said was more or less his opinion, which does stand up.

Can you hear in your own post how you have succumbed to the insanity?

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 03 Jul 20 7.53pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Can you hear in your own post how you have succumbed to the insanity?

Oh please. Calm down. A lot of people on this forum quite rightly don't like anti-Semitism. It isn't polite to point out that a particular Jew has a big nose.

It's just common sense.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 03 Jul 20 7.57pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

For what it's worth, I have met Starkey. He is (and now probably was) a consultant editor on a history magazine I worked for. He is notorious for being the rudest man in England, which he revels in. He is particularly proud of his mother having to scrub floors to get him a good education.

His whole media career has been to provoke. But he is good telly because he winds up liberals.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Jul 20 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Starkey used poor language.

However, Starkey has always held firm opinions. I hear that in the past he disavowed Enoch Powell so essentially I'm not quite sure where he stands on non European immigration into the country.

What is clear however is that double standards are clearly being implemented. If Cambridge had sacked their non white academic for stating that 'white lives don't matter - as white lives' then I could accept their position....while not agreeing with the free speech punishment.

However, as we see here, because Starkey is an old white male, no such protections exist for him.

I'm still waiting for discover this 'white privilege' because all I'm seeing is the opposite.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 03 Jul 20 8.15pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Starkey used poor language.


Starkey used the language he wanted to use. And more strength to him. Ditto with that bint who said 'white lives don't matter'.

Neither should lose their jobs and if I was at University, these are the people whose lectures I would be queuing up to attend. Because they have genuine opinions that trouble and make you question all sorts. That is the point. Stirring the pot. But neither threatened nor encouraged others to violence.

Universities should be places that encourage the freest of speech. Should revel in the extremes but instead are now nothing more than exercises in money-making. And are increasingly prey to some sinister forces. My daughter attends a top 10 British university and was telling me about the Chinese Government encouraging its students all attending to vote for certain candidates in the NUS elections. And given that her establishment is a Russel Group one, with all the research grants and project,makes the Chinese pressure even more worrying.

Let that be the centre of investigations rather than people expressing opinions and wanting to push debates to the extreme ends.

 


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Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Oh please. Calm down. A lot of people on this forum quite rightly don't like anti-Semitism. It isn't polite to point out that a particular Jew has a big nose.

It's just common sense.

So an opinion is not allowed if the language used is idiosyncratic and or it offends someone or offends someone by proxy?

This is a dangerous path don't you think.

So if someone is Jewish you can't criticise them?

Surely it would be rude to tell anyone they had a big nose but that would make it no less true or untrue.

 

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jeeagles Flag 03 Jul 20 8.20pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You miss the point.

We live in a world where you can't hold the 'wrong' opinion. It doesn't matter what that opinion is.

Who is deciding what is 'wrong' or 'unacceptable' and why?

Money is usually the answer.

I didn’t even read what it was for.
I’m not surprised it’s him though.

Some right wing black commentators where saying the George Floyd isn’t the person to make a martyr. I think the same is true for David Starky. f*** him - he’s dick.

 

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Originally posted by jeeagles

I didn’t even read what it was for.
I’m not surprised it’s him though.

Some right wing black commentators where saying the George Floyd isn’t the person to make a martyr. I think the same is true for David Starky. f*** him - he’s dick.

He isn't. He was a violent criminal.
As far as I'm aware, David Starkey hasn't robbed any pregnant women at gunpoint.

Not a good comparison.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Starkey used poor language.

However, Starkey has always held firm opinions. I hear that in the past he disavowed Enoch Powell so essentially I'm not quite sure where he stands on non European immigration into the country.

What is clear however is that double standards are clearly being implemented. If Cambridge had sacked their non white academic for stating that 'white lives don't matter - as white lives' then I could accept their position....while not agreeing with the free speech punishment.

However, as we see here, because Starkey is an old white male, no such protections exist for him.

I'm still waiting for discover this 'white privilege' because all I'm seeing is the opposite.

 


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jeeagles Flag 03 Jul 20 8.27pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Starkey used poor language.

However, Starkey has always held firm opinions. I hear that in the past he disavowed Enoch Powell so essentially I'm not quite sure where he stands on non European immigration into the country.

What is clear however is that double standards are clearly being implemented. If Cambridge had sacked their non white academic for stating that 'white lives don't matter - as white lives' then I could accept their position....while not agreeing with the free speech punishment.

However, as we see here, because Starkey is an old white male, no such protections exist for him.

I'm still waiting for discover this 'white privilege' because all I'm seeing is the opposite.

Have any non-white academics said that? This seems like quite an academic argument.

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 03 Jul 20 8.42pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So an opinion is not allowed if the language used is idiosyncratic and or it offends someone or offends someone by proxy?

This is a dangerous path don't you think.

So if someone is Jewish you can't criticise them?

Surely it would be rude to tell anyone they had a big nose but that would make it no less true or untrue.

So John Terry considered Anton Ferdinand to be a c***, but as he was black he called him a black c***.

What sort of unsophisticated bubble do you live in?

Sorry if I'm coming across rude but I won't have my opinion undermined by a throwaway comment like 'succumbing to the insanity'.

 

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jeeagles Flag 03 Jul 20 8.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He isn't. He was a violent criminal.
As far as I'm aware, David Starkey hasn't robbed any pregnant women at gunpoint.

Not a good comparison.

George Floyd was killed by a incompetent policemen for trying to us a fake $20 bill.

David Starkey resigned from his position as a unpaid honorary fellow, where you have to do no work, for saying:

"Slavery was not genocide otherwise there wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or Britain would there? An awful lot of them survived."

Not sure the consequences are the same either.

That’s extremely provocative statement and will take quite a long and contrived explanation along with a leap of faith to claim its non-offensive. In my view, most things that need a long explanation to justify their point of view are generally bulls***.

Its pretty obviously offensive, and I don’t think one of the best university in the world should be represented by someone prone to saying something so stupid.

On an change of topic. Oxford and Cambridge are full of rich kids sniffing drugs up their noises. A lot of people from poorer background sell those posh kids the drugs. Whilst I think it’s too late for most drug dealers and I couldn’t care less what happens to them, if you take away the demand, you take away the supply. If there’s no supply, maybe less young black kids will be enticed into crime, stabbed/arrested/hassled by the police.

If BLM stopped all this s*** about taking a knee, saying people’s names, and defunding the police, but instead said, we want rich white people to stop taking coke and tougher penalties for those found in possession of drugs for recreational use, then I might respect them.

 

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