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Originally posted by Stuk

Not when it comes to judging and/or home advantage I don't, but when it comes to an unbeaten world champion throwing a fight I do.

Do you really think Parker would agree to Hearn saying "AJ will go easy on you but you'll lose your world title and get to fight the likes of Whyte and Bellew afterwards, for much less than you've just earned" at a time when he's got a world title of his own and would have the world at his feet with victory?


Bonkers.

Was Wilder just pretending when Ortiz nearly cleaned him out in the last fight? Of course not, because a heavyweight fight can change in one punch. Was the WBC and his promoters cheating to buy him more time at the end of that round, you bet your arse they were!

Yep, quite possible. Parker had fought nobodies. His title was worth spit but a few paydays in the UK will make him a rich man. That is what boxing is about for the top guys.

Wilder V Ortiz has nothing to do with it. Everyone has avoided Ortiz until he was getting old because he was dangerous. Boxing is about making money and far less about sporting glory. That is why it is called prizefighting. Promoters trainers and champions will manage the circumstances as much as possible.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yep, quite possible. Parker had fought nobodies. His title was worth spit but a few paydays in the UK will make him a rich man. That is what boxing is about for the top guys.

Wilder V Ortiz has nothing to do with it. Everyone has avoided Ortiz until he was getting old because he was dangerous. Boxing is about making money and far less about sporting glory. That is why it is called prizefighting. Promoters trainers and champions will manage the circumstances as much as possible.

Joshua is levels above Parker, that was clear before they thought so why would Hearn need to pay him off ? It was just a no risk disciplined performance from Joshua, get in get out with another title.
Parker could have sat on his title defending against a mandatory from the other side of the world for a guaranteed 70% purse split if he just wanted an easy ride. He just decided to take he's shot and payday from Joshua and got found out at the highest level.

 

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Originally posted by rikz

Joshua is levels above Parker, that was clear before they thought so why would Hearn need to pay him off ? It was just a no risk disciplined performance from Joshua, get in get out with another title.
Parker could have sat on his title defending against a mandatory from the other side of the world for a guaranteed 70% purse split if he just wanted an easy ride. He just decided to take he's shot and payday from Joshua and got found out at the highest level.

You misunderstand. I never suggested that Parker was 'paid off'. I'm saying that maintaining Parkers reputation would have been beneficial for a Whyte v Parker PPV and future Whyte v AJ rematch.

 

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Make your mind up. They're either all in on "it" or not.

Hearn, Higgins, AJ, Parker, McCracken etc.

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

Make your mind up. They're either all in on "it" or not.

Hearn, Higgins, AJ, Parker, McCracken etc.

You don't seem to understand plain English.

There was a mutual benefit for Parker not to get destroyed by AJ.
Fights need the appearance of credibility if they are to fill big venues. Seeing AJ knock people over soon gets old and there are very few decent opponents. Whyte needs a credible opponent so he can move into the big time, fight AJ again in a domestic and make himself, AJ, Parker and Hearn more money in the process.

It's all fairly obvious but I'm not bothered if you don't buy it. No one is paying me.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't seem to understand plain English.

There was a mutual benefit for Parker not to get destroyed by AJ.
Fights need the appearance of credibility if they are to fill big venues. Seeing AJ knock people over soon gets old and there are very few decent opponents. Whyte needs a credible opponent so he can move into the big time, fight AJ again in a domestic and make himself, AJ, Parker and Hearn more money in the process.

It's all fairly obvious but I'm not bothered if you don't buy it. No one is paying me.

There was no benefit for AJ to attempt to destroy Parker, he was comfortably setting the pace and boxing out of reach, so why risk taking him out and getting caught. There's no conspiracy it's just the way it's panned out.

 

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Originally posted by rikz

There was no benefit for AJ to attempt to destroy Parker, he was comfortably setting the pace and boxing out of reach, so why risk taking him out and getting caught. There's no conspiracy it's just the way it's panned out.

It would appear Parker's strategy was 'No-Risk' and the fight never really took off, partly because of the referee whose constant interventions never allowed the fight to flow.

No conspiracy - certainly there was no plan hatched beforehand to ensure the fight went the distance.As you said "It's just the way it panned out".

 

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Originally posted by Willo

It would appear Parker's strategy was 'No-Risk' and the fight never really took off, partly because of the referee whose constant interventions never allowed the fight to flow.

No conspiracy - certainly there was no plan hatched beforehand to ensure the fight went the distance.As you said "It's just the way it panned out".

Leaving aside the conspiracy theories I agree that Parker never "went for it". I think he knew he couldn't beat Joshua so it was a survival strategy. I guess he was hoping for a lucky punch or a dodgy decision from the judges. Whatever it was not an entertaining fight.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't seem to understand plain English.

There was a mutual benefit for Parker not to get destroyed by AJ.
Fights need the appearance of credibility if they are to fill big venues. Seeing AJ knock people over soon gets old and there are very few decent opponents. Whyte needs a credible opponent so he can move into the big time, fight AJ again in a domestic and make himself, AJ, Parker and Hearn more money in the process.

It's all fairly obvious but I'm not bothered if you don't buy it. No one is paying me.

You're clutching at straws, as your first sentence shows. No I don't buy your ridiculous theory, nor does anyone else.

It was a unification fight you're talking about being rigged, because people would get bored if he knocked him out. Lol.

Are you even reading what you're writing?

 


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As for last night's walkover, there were more punches thrown in the crowd.

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

You're clutching at straws, as your first sentence shows. No I don't buy your ridiculous theory, nor does anyone else.

It was a unification fight you're talking about being rigged, because people would get bored if he knocked him out. Lol.

Are you even reading what you're writing?

Judging by your responses, you don't comprehend too well.
This is about setting up future fights to make money. It really isn't hard to grasp. You can believe that sport where people make millions is always honest if you want. Not a problem for me.

No doubt you were also impressed by the Tyson Fury fight as well. Another serious sporting contest with no thought to making money.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2018 4.40pm)

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Judging by your responses, you don't comprehend too well.
This is about setting up future fights to make money. It really isn't hard to grasp. You can believe that sport where people make millions is always honest if you want. Not a problem for me.

No doubt you were also impressed by the Tyson Fury fight as well. Another serious sporting contest with no thought to making money.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2018 4.40pm)

Fighters might not be matched , if it can build a bit more to make it a bigger fight. Some promoters may not put there fighter in with someone that they don’t think they will beat. Some fights might not be evenly matched, by the promoters.
But once the bell goes , it’s 2 men fighting.

 

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