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Originally posted by Casual

Fighters might not be matched , if it can build a bit more to make it a bigger fight. Some promoters may not put there fighter in with someone that they don’t think they will beat. Some fights might not be evenly matched, by the promoters.
But once the bell goes , it’s 2 men fighting.

I agree to a degree but fighters have been known to carry other fighters and when the mob had a big influence on boxing, fights were often fixed.
I'm not suggesting the fixer was in on this occasion but I do think it's possible that Parker's reputation was being protected in a fight that everyone knew he couldn't win in order to set up other fights.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Judging by your responses, you don't comprehend too well.
This is about setting up future fights to make money. It really isn't hard to grasp. You can believe that sport where people make millions is always honest if you want. Not a problem for me.

No doubt you were also impressed by the Tyson Fury fight as well. Another serious sporting contest with no thought to making money.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2018 4.40pm)

Been out the ring for 3 years anyone expecting anything other than an exhibition deserves to feel hard done by.

 

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Originally posted by rikz

Been out the ring for 3 years anyone expecting anything other than an exhibition deserves to feel hard done by.

Sure, but his warm up fights are a means to an end. His management will pick fights they know he can win to ensure some big money fights when the public is persuaded that he is able. It's all about the money.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 10 Jun 18 10.55pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I agree to a degree but fighters have been known to carry other fighters and when the mob had a big influence on boxing, fights were often fixed.
I'm not suggesting the fixer was in on this occasion but I do think it's possible that Parker's reputation was being protected in a fight that everyone knew he couldn't win in order to set up other fights.

At the lower level, journey men are paid to carry a prospect and get a few rounds under his belt, they usually make deals with promoters agreeing to give the prospect an easy night in exchange the prospect won't go for the stoppage allowing the journeyman to fight the following week. At the highest level the cash cow will be protected, if Joshua and Parker was close, there's no way Parker would have got the decision.

Whyte is only fighting Parker because his been screwed by the WBC, they was expecting whyte to be made mandatory for wilders title anyway. Hearn just got lucky that he had an opponent in Parker, ex world champ with enough media exposure in this country from fighting Joshua to justify a ppv fight for whyte, it's worked out great for matchroom but I don't see how this could be manipulated months ago.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 10 Jun 18 11.00pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Sure, but his warm up fights are a means to an end. His management will pick fights they know he can win to ensure some big money fights when the public is persuaded that he is able. It's all about the money.

Of course but they won't care less for the opponent or try to manipulate the decision to make money from the opponent in the future, fury will be very carefully managed and promoted, his opponents won't be. Maybe fury gets a tight decision against an unknown who will then be used as a future opponent for dubois. It's not manipulated that way it is what it is

 

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Originally posted by rikz

At the lower level, journey men are paid to carry a prospect and get a few rounds under his belt, they usually make deals with promoters agreeing to give the prospect an easy night in exchange the prospect won't go for the stoppage allowing the journeyman to fight the following week. At the highest level the cash cow will be protected, if Joshua and Parker was close, there's no way Parker would have got the decision.

Whyte is only fighting Parker because his been screwed by the WBC, they was expecting whyte to be made mandatory for wilders title anyway. Hearn just got lucky that he had an opponent in Parker, ex world champ with enough media exposure in this country from fighting Joshua to justify a ppv fight for whyte, it's worked out great for matchroom but I don't see how this could be manipulated months ago.

I think it was just a question of recognising that Parker was a good opportunity for future big money fights. Nothing more than that. I only suggest that because of the odd way that the fight turned out. It seemed that Joshua was trying very hard not to knock Parker out. No great conspiracy, just a bit of business management.

 

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I watched the Fury comeback fight what a joke! Same old Frank Warren (bum of the week opponent).

I realise that Fury wasn't going to have a hard fight due to his lay off but this was ridiculous. His opponent was too small and too light it was like a small child trying to take a swing at an adult.

To make matters worse Fury wouldn't stop mucking about and playing to the crowd. At one point he stopped to watch a fight in the audience. His opponent was clearly there for a final pay day and didn't want to get hurt so shamefully retired after the 4th (Probably because Warren only paid him up to that round).

It was such a joke that the referee warned Fury 2/3 times to get on with it. Not funny if you had a bet on which round Fury would win and he was dragging it out.

After the fight Warren said he was not going to rush Fury back into the big fights. That's right Frank still singing the same old song as long as the fans are stupid enough to pay you will keep feeding them bum fighters.

David (horizontal) Price claimed that the public want to see him against Fury. No David we don't, you have a glass jaw and have been well beaten by some rubbish fighters.

I still think Joshua will beat Fury because I believe he has a suspect chin and if he mucks about AJ will floor him. I have never seen a really fit Fury and doubt he has the will power to get in shape.

It's now up to Fury he needs to up his game lose some more weight and find a decent opponent otherwise the public will tire very quickly of his antics.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 11 Jun 18 12.12pm

Odd fight the Fury one.

At one stage he seemed more preoccupied at watching the crowd trouble that his opponent.

Good to see him back in the ring though.

Feel its going to take him another 3 fights to shake off the ring rust plus the rubber ring he's still carrying around his waist before we see him in with even a B level fighter - particularly now he's with Frank Warren.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Judging by your responses, you don't comprehend too well.
This is about setting up future fights to make money. It really isn't hard to grasp. You can believe that sport where people make millions is always honest if you want. Not a problem for me.

No doubt you were also impressed by the Tyson Fury fight as well. Another serious sporting contest with no thought to making money.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2018 4.40pm)

Says the person asking me a question I'd answered an hour previous to your post, and once again last week before the fight had happened.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 11 Jun 18 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I watched the Fury comeback fight what a joke! Same old Frank Warren (bum of the week opponent).

I realise that Fury wasn't going to have a hard fight due to his lay off but this was ridiculous. His opponent was too small and too light it was like a small child trying to take a swing at an adult.

To make matters worse Fury wouldn't stop mucking about and playing to the crowd. At one point he stopped to watch a fight in the audience. His opponent was clearly there for a final pay day and didn't want to get hurt so shamefully retired after the 4th (Probably because Warren only paid him up to that round).

It was such a joke that the referee warned Fury 2/3 times to get on with it. Not funny if you had a bet on which round Fury would win and he was dragging it out.

After the fight Warren said he was not going to rush Fury back into the big fights. That's right Frank still singing the same old song as long as the fans are stupid enough to pay you will keep feeding them bum fighters.

David (horizontal) Price claimed that the public want to see him against Fury. No David we don't, you have a glass jaw and have been well beaten by some rubbish fighters.

I still think Joshua will beat Fury because I believe he has a suspect chin and if he mucks about AJ will floor him. I have never seen a really fit Fury and doubt he has the will power to get in shape.

It's now up to Fury he needs to up his game lose some more weight and find a decent opponent otherwise the public will tire very quickly of his antics.

The best review of the fight I read was along the lines of:

Round 1, they both dick around
Round 2, they both dick around
Round 3, they watch a fight in the crowd
Round 4, a couple of punches are thrown
Round 5, Seferi can't be arsed

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

The best review of the fight I read was along the lines of:

Round 1, they both dick around
Round 2, they both dick around
Round 3, they watch a fight in the crowd
Round 4, a couple of punches are thrown
Round 5, Seferi can't be arsed

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

Says the person asking me a question I'd answered an hour previous to your post, and once again last week before the fight had happened.

You can't see me but I'm blowing a raspberry at the screen.

 

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