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View mileend's Profile mileend Flag East London 12 Sep 19 4.56pm Send a Private Message to mileend Add mileend as a friend

great if he gets a new agent - then this very short conversation can take place

Agent: Welcome Wilf

Wilf: I want to play in the Champions League

Agent: No problem, all you need to do is to play like a player for a top four club - because, obvious I know, if you don't then why in the world would they want you?

 

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View scuffy's Profile scuffy Flag orpington 12 Sep 19 5.40pm Send a Private Message to scuffy Add scuffy as a friend

That interpretation really is giving Wilf the benefit of the doubt to a considerable degree. Lot of people clutching at straws here instead of accepting the obvious conclusion that he wants out and was desperate for his agent to engineer a move.

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

The causality narrative is one any reporter will have to follow.

Reporter: Zaha sacked his agent
Editor: Why?
Reporter: dunno.
Editor: Well he was after a transfer in summer, so let's say that.
Reporter: ok.

In the publishing process:
Reporter juxtaposes departure with transfer request
Editor: Creates direct link between sacking and transfer attempt
No reporter will fight that tweak.

Assuming he did sack him, which he probably did/is trying to, he might have said why...or he might not

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 12 Sep 19 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

oh he sure as s*** wants out.

my guess is he thinks the contract extension he signed was one of the stupidest things he ever did. and ultimately, he blames the agent.

But I'm guessing and so are most of the journos.

He might equally have decided Salthouse is somebody he doesn't like...who knows?

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 12 Sep 19 7.35pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by mileend

great if he gets a new agent - then this very short conversation can take place

Agent: Welcome Wilf

Wilf: I want to play in the Champions League

Agent: No problem, all you need to do is to play like a player for a top four club - because, obvious I know, if you don't then why in the world would they want you?

Absolutely. It's what I imagine Roy Hodgson would be saying, knowing that Zaha is off. "Be professional, put in top performances, earn your dream move".

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Sep 19 7.46pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by mileend

great if he gets a new agent - then this very short conversation can take place

Agent: Welcome Wilf

Wilf: I want to play in the Champions League

Agent: No problem, all you need to do is to play like a player for a top four club - because, obvious I know, if you don't then why in the world would they want you?


Agent: you are already playing for a top four club

 


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View EagleinSF's Profile EagleinSF Flag San Fransisco 13 Sep 19 3.56am Send a Private Message to EagleinSF Add EagleinSF as a friend

[quote=Tom-the-eagle;3474432

Agent: you are already playing for a top four club

Agent: But not performing so you'll have to go to a lower club like Everton and take a pay cut.

Wilf: 'Crying' But I'm a champions league player

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag Chelsea 13 Sep 19 5.58am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Ultimately each player makes the final decision about where they play. Truth is Wilf is not very good at it. Couple this with a clearly indecisive mentality and you end up at 27 realising your mistakes. You see AWB cracking on at Man U and that must be like rubbing salt in wounds.
It is hard for anyone who is not gifted to play pro ball what must be going on between his ears but itís not sounding good.
What he should be doing is keeping his head down, focusing on his game and what will happen will happen. If he performs well, consistently, without emotion, the top boys will be at the gates for him. If not, they wonít. Simples.
Look at AWB. Kept his head down, played like a star, never moaned on or off the field and was gone at top dollar.
Look at Wilf. Inconsistent, long faced, petulant, touchy, arguing with the captain recently and always the ref, and now apparently saying everything is wrong.
When you look at his contract and his earnings it makes no sense. More than a lot of Champions league players get. So itís not about money. Itís about decisions. Now he is rich, he is probably kicking himself he signed the contract. His decisions and indecisions are gnawing away at him. And worst of all, the truth is he has only got himself to blame.
He is at a crossroads. Itís a dilemma for him and he is not handling it well. Banging in a transfer request at the worst possible time. Now sacking his agent. Not looking good.
He needs to get on the pitch and show everyone just how good he really is. He needs to show he loves performing top level. Week in week out. Sadly that has never been Wilf.
I personally hope someone comes in for him at £50m in the next window and Parish letís him go for all our sakes. But today Iím not sure either of those will happen. Sad.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 13 Sep 19 6.25am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

A little bit like his international choice.
Maybe that's in his head.
Two bad choices now.
5 year contract and impatience.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Sep 19 10.12am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

A little bit like his international choice.
Maybe that's in his head.
Two bad choices now.
5 year contract and impatience.

The bottom line for me is that despite his talents and adoration from we fans, Wilf is as thick as two short planks.
If he had any sense he would stay at Palace where he can cope with the stress level and expectation and earn a huge pay rise just by staying put.

 

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View RyWa's Profile RyWa Flag Beckenham 13 Sep 19 10.50am Send a Private Message to RyWa Add RyWa as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The bottom line for me is that despite his talents and adoration from we fans, Wilf is as thick as two short planks.
If he had any sense he would stay at Palace where he can cope with the stress level and expectation and earn a huge pay rise just by staying put.

Cant blame him for wanting to play Champions League.. hes certainly good enough.
However, I do entirely blame him for the way hes going about things to try and play in the Champions League..notably trying to join teams not in the Champions League LOL.

The worst part is, so far this season hes been so unbelievably average.

Theres two instances that stand out for me so far..
The first is that it was him who lost the ball for the Daniel James goal because he was trying to be clever.

The second was against Villa at home, he was taking so long to come back from offside postions, just strolling even when we were still attacking.. It was infuriating everyone around me when he was getting flagged for nothing more than petulance.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 13 Sep 19 11.29am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

If we were to get Batshuayi and say, 30m for Wilf and bought Watkins from Brentford for say 12m, still having Townsend, Ayew and Schlupp, would we be better off or worse? opinions

 

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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag Just outside The Cronx 13 Sep 19 1.10pm Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

If we were to get Batshuayi and say, 30m for Wilf and bought Watkins from Brentford for say 12m, still having Townsend, Ayew and Schlupp, would we be better off or worse? opinions

about £18m better off

 

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