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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 13 Nov 19 7.56pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

He won't be going anywhere with his current performances.

No club will pay big money for how he has been playing this season, and Palace won't let him go on the cheap.

We are stuck with him, and he is stuck with us. He better get used it and start performing.

I agree completely with this. He is not good enough to pick and choose one of the top sides so it is left with the likes of Everton or the other clubs that are closer to our level and they wouldnt pay the money we want. His long contract has basically tied him to us for a long time and I can see no winners in this.

I honestly don't believe that there is a club in the division who would pay big money for him. Over the past couple of seasons he has turned himself into a pantomime villian and every club and their fans just target him and he reacts. What other player do you ever see in the middle of a match jesturing back to the oppo fans ? His head is never on the game, he is constantly feeling hard done by which is not good enough for a so called top player. Vardy mocked our fans but at least he waited till he scored a goal to do it. Wilf is cupping his ears after nutmegging someone.

I have had a lot of joy watching Wilf play for us over the years but I have never rated him as anywhere near the top players in this country.I think he has let his ego get the better of him and he believes he is better than what he is.

The Wilf clickbait stories will start again soon and I for one won't be clicking on them because it is all garbage.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 13 Nov 19 8.09pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

I agree completely with this. He is not good enough to pick and choose one of the top sides so it is left with the likes of Everton or the other clubs that are closer to our level and they wouldnt pay the money we want. His long contract has basically tied him to us for a long time and I can see no winners in this.

I honestly don't believe that there is a club in the division who would pay big money for him. Over the past couple of seasons he has turned himself into a pantomime villian and every club and their fans just target him and he reacts. What other player do you ever see in the middle of a match jesturing back to the oppo fans ? His head is never on the game, he is constantly feeling hard done by which is not good enough for a so called top player. Vardy mocked our fans but at least he waited till he scored a goal to do it. Wilf is cupping his ears after nutmegging someone.

I have had a lot of joy watching Wilf play for us over the years but I have never rated him as anywhere near the top players in this country.I think he has let his ego get the better of him and he believes he is better than what he is.

The Wilf clickbait stories will start again soon and I for one won't be clicking on them because it is all garbage.

I wish I'd written that post. Excellent.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 14 Nov 19 6.57am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Bottom line...we'd be lucky to get 40m after the start to the season he's had and his age.

Either his form has gone or he's choosing to play poorly. Neither are the actions of a top player.

I'd love to see his stats v last season.

One thing I will say though is that his passing has improved.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 14 Nov 19 7.27am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Wilf has not been right this season, but bigger players than him have had similar periods when thing haven't gone their way. The question is whether he can turn it around.

I don't agree at all with those who say he isn't a top player in terms of his ability; teams don't put three players on an average player. His attitude has always been questionable and now he has soured his relationship with the fans following the transfer request understandably people have become less tolerant, especially when coupled with below par performances.

I really hope he turns it around and then gets his big move so he can go out on a high, as I am fed up of reading people slagging him off or questioning his ability when he has probably been our best player for at least 20 if not 30 years. Given he also gives 10% of his salary to charity and always seems to have time for the fans I am happy to forgive some on field petulance.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 14 Nov 19 8.37am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Wilf has not been right this season, but bigger players than him have had similar periods when thing haven't gone their way. The question is whether he can turn it around.

I don't agree at all with those who say he isn't a top player in terms of his ability; teams don't put three players on an average player. His attitude has always been questionable and now he has soured his relationship with the fans following the transfer request understandably people have become less tolerant, especially when coupled with below par performances.

I really hope he turns it around and then gets his big move so he can go out on a high, as I am fed up of reading people slagging him off or questioning his ability when he has probably been our best player for at least 20 if not 30 years. Given he also gives 10% of his salary to charity and always seems to have time for the fans I am happy to forgive some on field petulance.

Conversely clubs weren't exactly queueing around the block to sign him in the summer at the price we thought he was worth. We were ultimately offered marginally less than the vastly less experienced Wan-Bissaka suggesting that, whatever our supporters may think, other clubs don't rate him as "our best player for at least 20 if not 30 years"

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 14 Nov 19 9.37am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

Conversely clubs weren't exactly queueing around the block to sign him in the summer at the price we thought he was worth. We were ultimately offered marginally less than the vastly less experienced Wan-Bissaka suggesting that, whatever our supporters may think, other clubs don't rate him as "our best player for at least 20 if not 30 years"

I think the AWB price tag was based on potential. Noone was saying That AWB was better but Wilf is the finished article - he aint getting much better.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 14 Nov 19 12.56pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

Conversely clubs weren't exactly queueing around the block to sign him in the summer at the price we thought he was worth. We were ultimately offered marginally less than the vastly less experienced Wan-Bissaka suggesting that, whatever our supporters may think, other clubs don't rate him as "our best player for at least 20 if not 30 years"

If we'd taken payments in instalments then Arsenal may well have come in for him at 70m, but we weren't and so they turned to Pepe. Plus, aside from Pepe, none of the big clubs signed an expensive forward this summer (unless I'm forgetting one) suggesting it has nothing to do with Wilf and more to do with the fact most of them have a full quota of forwards (or a transfer ban) and so are not going to spend big on another one.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 17 Nov 19 8.22am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

I see that Wilf didn't play or wasn't on the bench for Ivory coast last night, maybe withdrawn through injury.

 

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View StrangerThing's Profile StrangerThing Flag Brisbane 17 Nov 19 12.09pm Send a Private Message to StrangerThing Add StrangerThing as a friend

Wilfs main problem is that he plays for us and we are for 70 minutes a game just playing containment. Chelsea were at 72% posession for the first half and nearly all of the 6 or so times we moved it forwards we went right. Wilf never even got a pass.
In the meantime he is watching a free wheeling Chelsea side playing Mount and Pulisic into space , no wonder hes not happy.
The ball is in play for 55 minutes, if we get about 30 % we have it for 16 minutes, Wilfs share would be about a minute, go to Chelsea and he will double his time on the ball.
He is our best player on he ball and yet we dont get it to him. The arguments about Roys style rage elsewhere but he is wasting our talented players.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 17 Nov 19 1.09pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by StrangerThing

Wilfs main problem is that he plays for us and we are for 70 minutes a game just playing containment. Chelsea were at 72% posession for the first half and nearly all of the 6 or so times we moved it forwards we went right. Wilf never even got a pass.
In the meantime he is watching a free wheeling Chelsea side playing Mount and Pulisic into space , no wonder hes not happy.
The ball is in play for 55 minutes, if we get about 30 % we have it for 16 minutes, Wilfs share would be about a minute, go to Chelsea and he will double his time on the ball.
He is our best player on he ball and yet we dont get it to him. The arguments about Roys style rage elsewhere but he is wasting our talented players.

Excellent post.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Nov 19 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by StrangerThing

Wilfs main problem is that he plays for us and we are for 70 minutes a game just playing containment. Chelsea were at 72% posession for the first half and nearly all of the 6 or so times we moved it forwards we went right. Wilf never even got a pass.
In the meantime he is watching a free wheeling Chelsea side playing Mount and Pulisic into space , no wonder hes not happy.
The ball is in play for 55 minutes, if we get about 30 % we have it for 16 minutes, Wilfs share would be about a minute, go to Chelsea and he will double his time on the ball.
He is our best player on he ball and yet we dont get it to him. The arguments about Roys style rage elsewhere but he is wasting our talented players.


Fair comment I think flair players would rather be involved in attacking football than tracking back and defending. I wonder if Wilf looks at City and Liverpool and the amount of time their wide man have on the ball.


 


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View palacefan2010's Profile palacefan2010 Flag Chatham 17 Nov 19 2.41pm Send a Private Message to palacefan2010 Add palacefan2010 as a friend

This below is 100% spot on ..... we donít have the players to match his ability, Zaha has to come back and get the ball to then face 2/3 of the oppression playing and if he looks to pass.... no one there!

Wilfs main problem is that he plays for us and we are for 70 minutes a game just playing containment. Chelsea were at 72% posession for the first half and nearly all of the 6 or so times we moved it forwards we went right. Wilf never even got a pass.
In the meantime he is watching a free wheeling Chelsea side playing Mount and Pulisic into space , no wonder hes not happy.
The ball is in play for 55 minutes, if we get about 30 % we have it for 16 minutes, Wilfs share would be about a minute, go to Chelsea and he will double his time on the ball.
He is our best player on he ball and yet we dont get it to him. The arguments about Roys style rage elsewhere but he is wasting our talented players.

 

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