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Painter Croydon 31 Jul 18 8.27pm
Originally posted by c_block_shedevil Kids? How patronising! I guarantee these "kids" have done a lot more for the club than a washed up middle aged man like you. The move was supposed to be for the whole fan base, not just the HF. What have they done for the club, sing a few songs and wave banners, wow! Hardly original. Where were they when crowds dipped whilst we were at the bottom of the championship? They are just another version plastic glory hunters riding on the back of our recent upturn in fortune. How does it benefit the whole fan base, your logic is flawed. Your occupation suits you by the way.
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Croydon 31 Jul 18 8.27pm

Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

Kids? How patronising! I guarantee these "kids" have done a lot more for the club than a washed up middle aged man like you.

The move was supposed to be for the whole fan base, not just the HF.

What have they done for the club, sing a few songs and wave banners, wow! Hardly original. Where were they when crowds dipped whilst we were at the bottom of the championship? They are just another version plastic glory hunters riding on the back of our recent upturn in fortune.
How does it benefit the whole fan base, your logic is flawed.
Your occupation suits you by the way.

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rednblue4eva Norwood 31 Jul 18 8.33pm
Originally posted by c_block_shedevil Kids? I guarantee these "kids" have done a lot more for the club than a washed up middle aged man like you. Such as?
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Norwood 31 Jul 18 8.33pm

Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

Kids? I guarantee these "kids" have done a lot more for the club than a washed up middle aged man like you.

Such as?

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c_block_shedevil London 31 Jul 18 8.43pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I think you have just yourself in the foot with this childish response. Played straight into the hands of the posters you have been arguing with. I did. And I apologise. I let my anger get the better of me by sinking to the same childish name calling which I'm trying to fight against. Apologies. I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.
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Originally posted by Spiderman

I think you have just yourself in the foot with this childish response. Played straight into the hands of the posters you have been arguing with.

I did. And I apologise. I let my anger get the better of me by sinking to the same childish name calling which I'm trying to fight against.

Apologies.

I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.

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c_block_shedevil London 31 Jul 18 8.45pm
Originally posted by est1905 Who is it that thinks that? I was under the impression the residents that have to move home to make way for the new stand will be relocated in an upgrade property (more sq footage, etc) AND compensated for the disruption to their lives as well as all relocation costs covered. Before you say how would I like being forced out of my home, you are right I wouldn't but the again I didn't move to the corner of a football stadium site where the freehold covering the land keeps passing ownership and the shadow of redevelopement always being there since the stadium was built in 1924! So if the block E fans were compensated, would that make things ok? I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.
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London 31 Jul 18 8.45pm

Originally posted by est1905

Who is it that thinks that?

I was under the impression the residents that have to move home to make way for the new stand will be relocated in an upgrade property (more sq footage, etc) AND compensated for the disruption to their lives as well as all relocation costs covered.
Before you say how would I like being forced out of my home, you are right I wouldn't but the again I didn't move to the corner of a football stadium site where the freehold covering the land keeps passing ownership and the shadow of redevelopement always being there since the stadium was built in 1924!

So if the block E fans were compensated, would that make things ok?

I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.

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.TUX. 31 Jul 18 8.49pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I have had the pleasure of witnessing many of the HF displays. Displays I have contributed to �� I have also had the misfortune at away games to get sat amongst teenagers dressed in black, who tried to force me from my seat. I am big. They fcked off. Unnecessary and provocative. Good on ya. We all needed 'guidance' as youngsters. Hopefully, over time along with experience, it'll sink in. Buy Litecoin.
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31 Jul 18 8.49pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I have had the pleasure of witnessing many of the HF displays. Displays I have contributed to ��

I have also had the misfortune at away games to get sat amongst teenagers dressed in black, who tried to force me from my seat.
I am big. They fcked off.

Unnecessary and provocative.

Good on ya.
We all needed 'guidance' as youngsters. Hopefully, over time along with experience, it'll sink in.

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c_block_shedevil London 31 Jul 18 8.53pm
When safe standing comes in and the owners decide to make blocks D,E and F standing. Will you fight against it? I can guarantee you it will be those blocks. And there will be no compensation on the table this time. Edited by c_block_shedevil (31 Jul 2018 8.55pm) I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.
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London 31 Jul 18 8.53pm

When safe standing comes in and the owners decide to make blocks D,E and F standing. Will you fight against it?

I can guarantee you it will be those blocks.

And there will be no compensation on the table this time.

Edited by c_block_shedevil (31 Jul 2018 8.55pm)

I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.

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Nobbybm Dartford 31 Jul 18 8.57pm
Originally posted by c_block_shedevil So if the block E fans were compensated, would that make things ok? It�s not just about Block E - the entire lower Holmesdale would have their view at least partly blocked by standing in E or F . Why do folk not understand that? The redevelopment is a necessary investment and upgrade to help the club grow, moving fans is not. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 31 Jul 18 8.57pm

Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

So if the block E fans were compensated, would that make things ok?

It�s not just about Block E - the entire lower Holmesdale would have their view at least partly blocked by standing in E or F . Why do folk not understand that?

The redevelopment is a necessary investment and upgrade to help the club grow, moving fans is not.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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Nobbybm Dartford 31 Jul 18 9.02pm
Originally posted by c_block_shedevil When safe standing comes in and the owners decide to make blocks D,E and F standing. Will you fight against it? I can guarantee you it will be those blocks. And there will be no compensation on the table this time. Edited by c_block_shedevil (31 Jul 2018 8.55pm) If it follows other countries & stadiums then it won�t for the same reasons above - it would restrict the view across the entire stand. Back rows & corners are the usual spots unless you�re doing an entire stand/tier. Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!
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Dartford 31 Jul 18 9.02pm

Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

When safe standing comes in and the owners decide to make blocks D,E and F standing. Will you fight against it?

I can guarantee you it will be those blocks.

And there will be no compensation on the table this time.

Edited by c_block_shedevil (31 Jul 2018 8.55pm)

If it follows other countries & stadiums then it won�t for the same reasons above - it would restrict the view across the entire stand.

Back rows & corners are the usual spots unless you�re doing an entire stand/tier.

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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.TUX. 31 Jul 18 9.09pm
Originally posted by Painter What have they done for the club, sing a few songs and wave banners, wow! Hardly original. Where were they when crowds dipped whilst we were at the bottom of the championship? They are just another version plastic glory hunters riding on the back of our recent upturn in fortune. How does it benefit the whole fan base, your logic is flawed. Your occupation suits you by the way. More than you and me along with many others methinks. Maybe you're jealous? Buy Litecoin.
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31 Jul 18 9.09pm

Originally posted by Painter

What have they done for the club, sing a few songs and wave banners, wow! Hardly original. Where were they when crowds dipped whilst we were at the bottom of the championship? They are just another version plastic glory hunters riding on the back of our recent upturn in fortune.
How does it benefit the whole fan base, your logic is flawed.
Your occupation suits you by the way.

More than you and me along with many others methinks.
Maybe you're jealous?

Buy Litecoin.

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oohahh Caterham 31 Jul 18 9.23pm
I've not read the whole thread but get the gist of the feelings. I'm one of the old men now and don't get there as often as I would like but still enjoy the atmosphere of block B. Going back to when I was a teenager, I stood on the Holmesdale terrace and we cheered and sang - the club even provided song sheets once. Then they built the arfur and we were the singers below the TV gantry in the middle. At the time we were in the 3rd division and had the cup run. There was a great atmosphere at home and away - four trains to Sunderland, 40 or 50 coaches to some games. That died out a little and crowds dwindled, then when Wright and Bright played it brought more excitement to the ground, another cup run and the atmosphere improved again. Another dodgy patch and the HF came along. Well done them, brought the noise and passion back. Yes, they (or hangers on) do daft things like smoke bombs at Brighton. Maybe they were youngsters and are now growing up so need to save a bit - home and away all season does cost a few bob. Whatever happens the club will still be there, the loyal supporters will still be there, there will be singing - from the arfur at least. Someone, or another group will take the lead If Roy works his magic and we start rising again the crowds will return, so will the noise
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Caterham 31 Jul 18 9.23pm

I've not read the whole thread but get the gist of the feelings. I'm one of the old men now and don't get there as often as I would like but still enjoy the atmosphere of block B.
Going back to when I was a teenager, I stood on the Holmesdale terrace and we cheered and sang - the club even provided song sheets once. Then they built the arfur and we were the singers below the TV gantry in the middle. At the time we were in the 3rd division and had the cup run. There was a great atmosphere at home and away - four trains to Sunderland, 40 or 50 coaches to some games. That died out a little and crowds dwindled, then when Wright and Bright played it brought more excitement to the ground, another cup run and the atmosphere improved again.
Another dodgy patch and the HF came along. Well done them, brought the noise and passion back. Yes, they (or hangers on) do daft things like smoke bombs at Brighton. Maybe they were youngsters and are now growing up so need to save a bit - home and away all season does cost a few bob.
Whatever happens the club will still be there, the loyal supporters will still be there, there will be singing - from the arfur at least. Someone, or another group will take the lead
If Roy works his magic and we start rising again the crowds will return, so will the noise

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Palace in the Blood 31 Jul 18 9.30pm
Originally posted by c_block_shedevil When safe standing comes in and the owners decide to make blocks D,E and F standing. Will you fight against it? I can guarantee you it will be those blocks. And there will be no compensation on the table this time. Edited by c_block_shedevil (31 Jul 2018 8.55pm) There is very little support from the law makers for a change to allow safe standing so it is not when but a very big IF. A number of organisations and clubs have asked for it to be reviewed but no change is imminent. So the first question is if safe standing was allowed would the club want to implement it? Assuming they did I think they would want to trial it somewhere. I think they would choose Block B (- the Ultras current place) as this has the recent history of standing. If it was sucessful it would be expanded. Things can only move forward by evolution not revolution.
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Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

When safe standing comes in and the owners decide to make blocks D,E and F standing. Will you fight against it?

I can guarantee you it will be those blocks.

And there will be no compensation on the table this time.

Edited by c_block_shedevil (31 Jul 2018 8.55pm)

There is very little support from the law makers for a change to allow safe standing so it is not when but a very big IF.

A number of organisations and clubs have asked for it to be reviewed but no change is imminent.

So the first question is if safe standing was allowed would the club want to implement it?

Assuming they did I think they would want to trial it somewhere. I think they would choose Block B (- the Ultras current place) as this has the recent history of standing. If it was sucessful it would be expanded.

Things can only move forward by evolution not revolution.

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.TUX. 31 Jul 18 10.01pm
Originally posted by Palace in the Blood There is very little support from the law makers for a change to allow safe standing so it is not when but a very big IF. A number of organisations and clubs have asked for it to be reviewed but no change is imminent. So the first question is if safe standing was allowed would the club want to implement it? Assuming they did I think they would want to trial it somewhere. I think they would choose Block B (- the Ultras current place) as this has the recent history of standing. If it was sucessful it would be expanded. Things can only move forward by evolution not revolution. We happily stood for over 100yrs but now we are told to sit. Buy Litecoin.
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31 Jul 18 10.01pm

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

There is very little support from the law makers for a change to allow safe standing so it is not when but a very big IF.

A number of organisations and clubs have asked for it to be reviewed but no change is imminent.

So the first question is if safe standing was allowed would the club want to implement it?

Things can only move forward by evolution not revolution.

We happily stood for over 100yrs but now we are told to sit.

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