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BarEagle Monmouth 29 Sep 18 9.05pm
Originally posted by PZ Eagle And I answered you by saying I was not against a positive atmosphere OK. I think you are indirectly agreeing (as you won’t answer a simple question) that the HF promote, add to and increase the positive atmosphere. I agree.
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Monmouth 29 Sep 18 9.05pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

And I answered you by saying I was not against a positive atmosphere OK.

I think you are indirectly agreeing (as you won’t answer a simple question) that the HF promote, add to and increase the positive atmosphere.

I agree.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 29 Sep 18 9.12pm
I'm struggling with the contradiction that they're such great fans but have deliberately acted in a way they believe to be detrimental to the club just becuase they can't move to another block. Let's not forget they've had preferential treatment at Wembley etc. (and rightly so). Not exactly been given the cold shoulder over the years.
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I'm struggling with the contradiction that they're such great fans but have deliberately acted in a way they believe to be detrimental to the club just becuase they can't move to another block.

Let's not forget they've had preferential treatment at Wembley etc. (and rightly so). Not exactly been given the cold shoulder over the years.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 29 Sep 18 9.19pm
Originally posted by daven Right here goes an idea, The club start working on this NOW. Every season ticket holder in the lower tier gets sent a simple letter asking if they want to be part of the singing section. The club will then know how many seats to allocate for the singing section. This section will be formed from the middle outwards with the HF in the middle of it. The remaining season ticket holders would be given the chance to select their seats on length of support with certain deadlines. This would mean that nobody would be moved from the centre of the stand to the corners and also nobody would feel victimised because long term supporters would be given first choice. I will put it to steve on monday, or later tonight if i can get him on the phone, i like it!
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Any european country i fancy! 29 Sep 18 9.19pm

Originally posted by daven

Right here goes an idea,
The club start working on this NOW.
Every season ticket holder in the lower tier gets sent a simple letter asking if they want to be part of the singing section.
The club will then know how many seats to allocate for the singing section. This section will be formed from the middle outwards with the HF in the middle of it.
The remaining season ticket holders would be given the chance to select their seats on length of support with certain deadlines. This would mean that nobody would be moved from the centre of the stand to the corners and also nobody would feel victimised because long term supporters would be given first choice.

I will put it to steve on monday, or later tonight if i can get him on the phone, i like it!

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npn Crowborough 29 Sep 18 9.29pm
Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot I personally feel that to much is made of the effect they have on the team... Now I won't lie the HF have been good for the club... yeas I agree that they have made the atmosphere better... Not on an enormous scale but yes they have.. Now here's the thing.... The HF have no effect on how the team play... some might not like that but it's true... I think we sometimes overestimate the effect fans have on the team... footballers, generally will say in interviews what they think the fans want to hear.. that's why they have media training.. but ultimately the team will play well or poorly based on how they get on and the coaching they get. I've been watching Palace since 1987... I have been involved in games where our supporters have been amazing... A great atmosphere is nothing new to Selhurst Park.. What I don't agree with, is throwing toys out the pram because they don't get there own way.. No player or set of fans is bigger than the club... A true fan stands by the club no matter what. Interestingly, I think they did a display which said "no matter what". It turned out the small print was "unless we don't get our own way" . For me, I will enjoy having the atmosphere back, but their reputation as supporters of the club first and foremost is shattered, and they will now effectively be hired cheerleaders.
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Crowborough 29 Sep 18 9.29pm

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

I personally feel that to much is made of the effect they have on the team... Now I won't lie the HF have been good for the club... yeas I agree that they have made the atmosphere better... Not on an enormous scale but yes they have..

Now here's the thing.... The HF have no effect on how the team play... some might not like that but it's true... I think we sometimes overestimate the effect fans have on the team... footballers, generally will say in interviews what they think the fans want to hear.. that's why they have media training.. but ultimately the team will play well or poorly based on how they get on and the coaching they get.

I've been watching Palace since 1987... I have been involved in games where our supporters have been amazing... A great atmosphere is nothing new to Selhurst Park..

What I don't agree with, is throwing toys out the pram because they don't get there own way.. No player or set of fans is bigger than the club... A true fan stands by the club no matter what.

Interestingly, I think they did a display which said "no matter what". It turned out the small print was "unless we don't get our own way" . For me, I will enjoy having the atmosphere back, but their reputation as supporters of the club first and foremost is shattered, and they will now effectively be hired cheerleaders.

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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 29 Sep 18 9.36pm
Originally posted by npn Interestingly, I think they did a display which said "no matter what". It turned out the small print was "unless we don't get our own way" . For me, I will enjoy having the atmosphere back, but their reputation as supporters of the club first and foremost is shattered, and they will now effectively be hired cheerleaders. I tend to agree with you now, after all this npn.. Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!
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Originally posted by npn

I tend to agree with you now, after all this npn..

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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bicycle repair man 29 Sep 18 10.21pm
Originally the HF were great fun,a friendly bunch who produced lots of noise with their unique songs which other clubs have copied. But now they're starting to believe their over inflated image,and imagine they are a superior breed of Palace supporter. Of course they are deluded.Parish has caved in to their demands because he wants the quiet life,and we're nearly always sold out anyway,so he doesn't care who sits or stands where. Quite frankly this recent spat has made Palace a laughing stock among opposing fans,and the HF have become a total embarrassment. Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am)
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Originally the HF were great fun,a friendly bunch who produced lots of noise with their unique songs which other clubs have copied.
But now they're starting to believe their over inflated image,and imagine they are a superior breed of Palace supporter.
Of course they are deluded.Parish has caved in to their demands because he wants the quiet life,and we're nearly always sold out anyway,so he doesn't care who sits or stands where.
Quite frankly this recent spat has made Palace a laughing stock among opposing fans,and the HF have become a total embarrassment.

Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am)

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PZ Eagle Penzance 29 Sep 18 10.33pm
Originally posted by BarEagle I think you are indirectly agreeing (as you won’t answer a simple question) that the HF promote, add to and increase the positive atmosphere. I agree. There's no HF at the moment so it's just a hypothetical question. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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PZ Eagle

Penzance 29 Sep 18 10.33pm

Originally posted by BarEagle

I think you are indirectly agreeing (as you won’t answer a simple question) that the HF promote, add to and increase the positive atmosphere.

I agree.

There's no HF at the moment so it's just a hypothetical question.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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ZIGnZAG Stoke 29 Sep 18 11.15pm
Originally posted by npn Interestingly, I think they did a display which said "no matter what". It turned out the small print was "unless we don't get our own way" . For me, I will enjoy having the atmosphere back, but their reputation as supporters of the club first and foremost is shattered, and they will now effectively be hired cheerleaders. This.
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Stoke 29 Sep 18 11.15pm

Originally posted by npn

This.

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Midlands Eagle 30 Sep 18 7.39am
Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot I personally feel that to much is made of the effect they have on the team... Now I won't lie the HF have been good for the club... yeas I agree that they have made the atmosphere better... Not on an enormous scale but yes they have.. Now here's the thing.... The HF have no effect on how the team play... some might not like that but it's true... I think we sometimes overestimate the effect fans have on the team... I think that this was confirmed earlier in the thread when one first teamer admitted that he hadn't realised that they had gone
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Now here's the thing.... The HF have no effect on how the team play... some might not like that but it's true... I think we sometimes overestimate the effect fans have on the team...

I think that this was confirmed earlier in the thread when one first teamer admitted that he hadn't realised that they had gone

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dreamwaverider London 30 Sep 18 8.03am
Originally posted by bicycle repair man Originally the HF were great fun,a friendly bunch who produced lots of noise with their unique songs which other clubs have copied. But now they're starting to believe their over inflated image,and imagine they are a superior breed of Palace supporter. Of course they are deluded.Parish has caved in to their demands because he wants the quiet life,and we're nearly always sold out anyway,so he doesn't care who sits or stands where. Quite frankly this recent spat has made Palace a laughing stock among opposing fans,and the HF have become a total embarrassment. Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am) Sorry you don’t agree with our chairman. But luckily for me and thousands of other fans SP appreciates the need for noise in the Homesdale so whatever you and your fellow pc crowd think this is what is happening. Accept it and move on.
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am)

Sorry you don’t agree with our chairman. But luckily for me and thousands of other fans SP appreciates the need for noise in the Homesdale so whatever you and your fellow pc crowd think this is what is happening. Accept it and move on.

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dreamwaverider London 30 Sep 18 8.07am
Originally posted by bicycle repair man Originally the HF were great fun,a friendly bunch who produced lots of noise with their unique songs which other clubs have copied. But now they're starting to believe their over inflated image,and imagine they are a superior breed of Palace supporter. Of course they are deluded.Parish has caved in to their demands because he wants the quiet life,and we're nearly always sold out anyway,so he doesn't care who sits or stands where. Quite frankly this recent spat has made Palace a laughing stock among opposing fans,and the HF have become a total embarrassment. Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am) And one thing SP doesn’t go for is a quiet life. CLEARLY! !
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dreamwaverider

London 30 Sep 18 8.07am

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am)

And one thing SP doesn’t go for is a quiet life. CLEARLY! !

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BarEagle Monmouth 30 Sep 18 10.49am
Originally posted by PZ Eagle There's no HF at the moment so it's just a hypothetical question. There is nothing hypothetical about it. Virtually everybody agrees the atmosphere has dropped dramatically and negatively since their disappearance. Go on, swallow, and admit you agree.
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BarEagle

Monmouth 30 Sep 18 10.49am

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

There's no HF at the moment so it's just a hypothetical question.

There is nothing hypothetical about it. Virtually everybody agrees the atmosphere has dropped dramatically and negatively since their disappearance.

Go on, swallow, and admit you agree.

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