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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 08 Oct 18 9.41pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle


That's easy. The HF have actually no effect whatsoever on the results of players performance on the pitch. Anyone who thinks they are worth extra points and we will finish in a European spot (as one HF lover posted) are deluded. As was posted on this thread one first team player didn't even know they had gone.

...and you can PROVE this how?*

*please refer to the number of previous comments about the premise that this has neither been proved or disproved yet by ANYONE on here, and until it is, it's just your ASSUMPTION that this is the case.

Edited by Lyons550 (08 Oct 2018 9.42pm)

 


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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 08 Oct 18 10.42pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'd say that the effect on the opposition is more important. I'm sure they would rather play in front of a quiet home crowd.

A noisy crowd, with energy is going to effect both teams - how many times has a player been booed only to put out a man of the match display.

I feel the HF don't make much of a difference, but here is the thing.. if they do, then our players have a lot to answer for, as the past 6 years haven't been great.. so a few blokes singing gets the results but wages, training, manager doesn't?

Ultimately the HF make it more enjoyable for the other fans... simple as that.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 Oct 18 11.13pm

Originally posted by Vaibow

A noisy crowd, with energy is going to effect both teams - how many times has a player been booed only to put out a man of the match display.

I feel the HF don't make much of a difference, but here is the thing.. if they do, then our players have a lot to answer for, as the past 6 years haven't been great.. so a few blokes singing gets the results but wages, training, manager doesn't?

Ultimately the HF make it more enjoyable for the other fans... simple as that.

Great displays at the cup final and stamford bridge to be fair to them!

 

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View BarEagle's Profile BarEagle Flag Monmouth 09 Oct 18 10.25am Send a Private Message to BarEagle Add BarEagle as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

I honestly dont believe the Chairman does know more about this subject than the rest of us.
As for the players. NONE have cited the HF as any better than any other Palace fan so what are you talking about?
The 'My dad says so so it must be true' argument is a little childish and not at all effective

Wow!

You are deluded then I am afraid.

 

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View SnapperKain's Profile SnapperKain Flag SE25 6PU 09 Oct 18 10.53am Send a Private Message to SnapperKain Add SnapperKain as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

A noisy crowd, with energy is going to effect both teams - how many times has a player been booed only to put out a man of the match display.

I feel the HF don't make much of a difference, but here is the thing.. if they do, then our players have a lot to answer for, as the past 6 years haven't been great.. so a few blokes singing gets the results but wages, training, manager doesn't?

Ultimately the HF make it more enjoyable for the other fans... simple as that.

Agree with this, we all know that for the majority of footballers the money and fame aren't enough, they want to be the centre of attention and adored by the fans. Good luck trying that in any other job, but if you're a narcissistic spoilt child who can kick an inflated ball around half decently whilst carrying your inflated ego, then football is the career to go for.

Rant aside, if the players need that constant adoration to play decently, then there's a lot of questions to be asked about the lot of them. However I have to admit from a fans perspective I prefer a decent atmosphere, than being able to hear someone coughing in the opposite stand and there's no doubt in my mind anyway that the atmosphere is better when the fanatics are around.

I just object to (as I see it) the "bullying" of other fans out of their seats to accommodate the fanatics original demands. Yes it's the clubs prerogative to move fans if they want and yes the fans don't "own" their seats permanently, but it just doesn't sit well with me. I hope that they've come to a resolution that works for all and that some kind of unofficial tier system doesn't end up being in place, when it comes to asking for seats in certain areas.

 


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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 09 Oct 18 3.57pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

Wow!

You are deluded then I am afraid.

No my naïve little fellow poster I think that is you. Having lots of money, a soap box to speak publicly, being on the board and sitting in the corporate area in my opinion does not give someone more insight than any of the rest of us. Are you one of those idiots that think Chairman of the club = all seeing/all knowing God of all he surveys?

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 09 Oct 18 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

home advantage is still a thing in football. my hunch would be that vocal support contributes. people suggesting we're lousy at home of course cannot say how we might otherwise be. Nor can I. Which is why it's just my hunch.

But results aside, several seasons of what we've had so far this season would be sooooo grim.

 


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View Jefroc's Profile Jefroc Flag Crete 09 Oct 18 5.06pm Send a Private Message to Jefroc Add Jefroc as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

No my naïve little fellow poster I think that is you. Having lots of money, a soap box to speak publicly, being on the board and sitting in the corporate area in my opinion does not give someone more insight than any of the rest of us. Are you one of those idiots that think Chairman of the club = all seeing/all knowing God of all he surveys?


Football is a game of opinions. And as such SP has an opinion too and as such can air them just like you or me. But one thing that cannot be disputed is without our chairman and his oppos you will be without any seat at all at Selhurst Park and would be sitting watching football at Dulwich Hamlet or Stamford Bridge.


 


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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 09 Oct 18 5.18pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

No my naïve little fellow poster I think that is you. Having lots of money, a soap box to speak publicly, being on the board and sitting in the corporate area in my opinion does not give someone more insight than any of the rest of us. Are you one of those idiots that think Chairman of the club = all seeing/all knowing God of all he surveys?


I have to disagree. I’d like to think board members and chairman have more of an insight. We can discuss our opinions/thoughts etc.... but they must know the facts and be weighing up our arguements fore and against.

 

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View Eltham Eagle's Profile Eltham Eagle Flag 09 Oct 18 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Eltham Eagle Add Eltham Eagle as a friend

Opposition players like to quieten the home crowd.

We now have given them a quiet crowd.

That can only benefit them.

So if results have been bad before, expect them to be worse now.

And if anyone is happy with that, you're crazy.

 


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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 10 Oct 18 1.37am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Great displays at the cup final and stamford bridge to be fair to them!

yup, but like i said, theatrics aside, fan enjoyment aside, it doesn't really do much on the pitch.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 10 Oct 18 5.01am Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

...and you can PROVE this how?*

*please refer to the number of previous comments about the premise that this has neither been proved or disproved yet by ANYONE on here, and until it is, it's just your ASSUMPTION that this is the case.

Edited by Lyons550 (08 Oct 2018 9.42pm)

He can’t prove it, because several professional footballers have actually directly contradicted his assumption - correctly called an assumption.

Why would ex Palace player Alex McCarthy publicly state that Selhurst was an easier place to come to without the noise and atmosphere that the HF help to generate?

What posisble reason would McCarthy have to lie about this topic? He is even ex palace.

Easier place to come to = opposition players more comfortable = easier to play against us = they play better.

I think Alex was saying it does have an impact on what happens on the pitch.

 


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