It seems some posters do believe that! The sway of a few kids singing and waving banners is influencing top class footballers, not the huge salaries anymore.
How times change.

The hf, the first group of fanatics, who, are so fanatical, they must stop supporting the very club, that, they we're once so fanatical about.

Couldntgivafucatics

Edited by ZIGnZAG (05 Aug 2018 1.19am)

Whoopee doo. Dont get me wrong I love the fact that they make a lot of noise and start a lot of the singing. But we don't NEED a drum or NEED to dress in black to get behind the team.

And the attention of the police. The away fans were moved to avoid a potential flashpoint and I doubt that Steve Parish wants a repeat of that issue. Also, they don't do "up the back"; they're a "look-at-us" outfit.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Any decision on safe standing, even if the government are minded to consider it, will be years away. There would be lengthy consultation and trials before any decision. Plus, unless a whole stand were made safe standing, which is unlikely, it will be at the back of stands and that's not what the HF want is it?

Also, they've lost their chance to be kept "together", as when they decided not to renew their season tickets, the club offered their seats to other supporters.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

This is a shame. A lot of opinion purported as fact on here, but that corner does an awful lot for Palace. Gets most of the songs started, ensures the atmosphere is huge when conditions are right, keeps the songs going.

It is part of our identity that we make such a lot of noise at home, and it is the envy of other clubs and widely reported as being hard for opposing teams and refreshing for reporters that visit occasionally.

Hard to say how many points it was worth to us but certainly a few, and I think it even nudges the balance when players are deciding to join us or not.

One stadiums became all-seater, pre-HF Selhurst was a morgue at times, exactly the same as every other bland anodyne club. The HF changed that.

Now, if, IF they have made ridiculous demands then huffed off when they weren't met they have badly let everyone down. Once you create something that others rely on then you have a responsibility to it and to them, like it or not.

However I wonder where the truth lies here; it's usually somewhere between extreme views that are reported. Everyone else can, of course, take up the mantle but that hasn't happened with the HF there so highly unlikely it will without them: we can be as fickle as any other fans.

I hope this can be resolved some way as we will struggle without the atmosphere and whether you liked them or didn't (and let's be fair, some of their things are a bit marmite) there is no denying that the drum, the displays, the songs made Palace home games much MUCH more of a spectacle and enjoyable to be at.

You'll be forever in my family's memories and it was an honor and privilege to play and lead in the red and blue
Yours sincerely
Mile Jedinak