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 steeleye20 Online  Croydon 03 Sep 18 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Replacing someone doesn't mean it has to be like for like, but as I said before don't take my word for it. Read Root's statement again. Ali has described himself that way, past tense. Take a listen to his post match interviews. You keep talking about overseas but this is a series in England, and I'll take the opinion of people like Harbajhan over your's. You also keep referring to the last Ashes series which was an abomination for all involved and massively alters his bowling average. His averages in India indicate that he should be picked for the Sri Lanka tour. Thank you E.W.Swanton!
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| Stirlingsays 03 Sep 18 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Replacing someone doesn't mean it has to be like for like, but as I said before don't take my word for it. Read Root's statement again. Ali has described himself that way, past tense. Take a listen to his post match interviews. You keep talking about overseas but this is a series in England, and I'll take the opinion of people like Harbajhan over your's. You also keep referring to the last Ashes series which was an abomination for all involved and massively alters his bowling average. His averages in India indicate that he should be picked for the Sri Lanka tour. Ok Stuk.....I will keep my fingers crossed that's he is chosen as the lead spinner for that series and we will make a judgement on the wisdom of this after the series based on his series averages. I fully expect we will both be on the site to account for these opinions.
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chateauferret  03 Sep 18 8.35pm |
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Cook has announced he's doing a Vardy. Has had some fantastic innings in his time but also quite a lot of truly s*** ones. Probably time.
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| steeleye20 Online Croydon 03 Sep 18 9.17pm |
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I have been looking at Cookie's history since debut in 2006. Aggers says there may not be another and looking at it in the round, you do wonder. Can you, for example think of any English batsmen, who with the game lost, could bat for a day and a half at Perth to deny Australia victory? Cook was born to captain his country and his platform test cricket.
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| Stuk Top half 03 Sep 18 9.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ok Stuk.....I will keep my fingers crossed that's he is chosen as the lead spinner for that series and we will make a judgement on the wisdom of this after the series based on his series averages. I fully expect we will both be on the site to account for these opinions. I can't see him not being that, injury aside. We can see what he does at The Oval before then. With Ashwin a good reference once more.
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| Stuk Top half 03 Sep 18 9.35pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Cook has announced he's doing a Vardy. Has had some fantastic innings in his time but also quite a lot of truly s*** ones. Probably time. Only really this year I'd say. In any consistency. If he was unburdened by the captaincy who knows how much better his, already outstanding, career and statistics would have been?
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| Stuk Top half 03 Sep 18 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I have been looking at Cookie's history since debut in 2006. Aggers says there may not be another and looking at it in the round, you do wonder. Can you, for example think of any English batsmen, who with the game lost, could bat for a day and a half at Perth to deny Australia victory? Cook was born to captain his country and his platform test cricket. I'd be surprised if there's another. Compare his record to the only 5 batsmen above him in the total runs. None of them opened the batting in tests for more than a handful of matches, if at all, while Cook has hardly ever batted anywhere but an opener.
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Crystal_Clear  Belfast 03 Sep 18 10.18pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Only really this year I'd say. In any consistency. If he was unburdened by the captaincy who knows how much better his, already outstanding, career and statistics would have been? Exactly the same is happening to Root. Don't make your best player the captain.
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| Stirlingsays 03 Sep 18 11.15pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I can't see him not being that, injury aside. We can see what he does at The Oval before then. With Ashwin a good reference once more.
Ashwin's test record is 327 wickets at 25.59 Form in temporary.....statistics are permanent. I'm going to have fun reminding you during this tour when we see Ali being ineffective on non English wickets.
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| Stuk Top half 03 Sep 18 11.21pm |
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Originally posted by Crystal_Clear
Exactly the same is happening to Root. Don't make your best player the captain. I agree, but I also don't think it shouldn't be a bowler. So your options are then down to any other batsman who isn't going to be dropped.
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| Stuk Top half 03 Sep 18 11.45pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ashwin's test record is 327 wickets at 25.59 Form in temporary.....statistics are permanent. I'm going to have fun reminding you during this tour when we see Ali being ineffective on non English wickets.
A good reference for the match/series, not their careers. You can only compare like for like. I've never said he's had a better test career than Ashwin. I know Ashwin's is clearly better, making this like for like performance more impressive. Thank you for acknowledging it. You said he's a failed test match player, and he's not. A man of the match award, since you posted that statement already proves you wrong, but you're too stubborn, if not stupid, to argue otherwise.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Sep 18 2.58am |
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Originally posted by Stuk
A good reference for the match/series, not their careers. You can only compare like for like. I've never said he's had a better test career than Ashwin. I know Ashwin's is clearly better, making this like for like performance more impressive. Thank you for acknowledging it. You said he's a failed test match player, and he's not. A man of the match award, since you posted that statement already proves you wrong, but you're too stubborn, if not stupid, to argue otherwise.
Ali is as useless overseas as your cricketing judgement is here. I predict, if selected to tour, he'll have another poor winter.
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