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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 08 Aug 18 9.22am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Whether you find his joke funny or not how can a joke made at the expense of how some Muslim women dress stir up racial hatred?

Because it's literally being made because she's a muslim and belittling what she's choosing to wear. It's really not that difficult is it?

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Because it's literally being made because she's a muslim and belittling what she's choosing to wear. It's really not that difficult is it?


Back before the progressive left destroyed comedy you could make jokes about groups and you could make jokes about what people wear......without a movement trying to sack you or other unpersoning attempts.

'Progressive' politics is a cancer on society.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2018 9.50am)

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 08 Aug 18 10.05am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Back before the progressive left destroyed comedy you could make jokes about groups and you could make jokes about what people wear......without a movement trying to sack you or other unpersoning attempts.

'Progressive' politics is a cancer on society.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2018 9.50am)

The vast majority of comedians are left wing. Right wing people are too boring to be funny. Plus taking the piss out of something someone wears is just ridiculously low level 'comedy'.

Oh and get a new line about progressive politics/cancer. It wasn't even clever the first time, let alone the 427th.


Edited by DanH (08 Aug 2018 10.06am)

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 08 Aug 18 10.06am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Happy to be a d*ckhead in that case. It's not even funny.

DANH do you find this funny, Yes or No?
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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 08 Aug 18 10.25am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Because it's literally being made because she's a muslim and belittling what she's choosing to wear. It's really not that difficult is it?

I think that perhaps you either need to look up the definition of racial hatred or perhaps you are trying to redefine the term.

I agree with Boris Johnson that women that wear the burqa look like letter boxes but that doesn't mean that I feel hostile towards them much as if I laugh at a joke about ginger haired people that doesn't automatically mean that I have hostility towards them

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Aug 18 10.30am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Change with us.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Aug 18 10.35am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

The vast majority of comedians are left wing. Right wing people are too boring to be funny. Plus taking the piss out of something someone wears is just ridiculously low level 'comedy'.

Oh and get a new line about progressive politics/cancer. It wasn't even clever the first time, let alone the 427th.


Edited by DanH (08 Aug 2018 10.06am)

That's just a simplistic summary of the situation.

Lots of comedy involves being critical and seeing things through a new lens. It's not about conserving a view or upholding tradition.

Hence right wing people aren't typically attracted to comedy in the same numbers....but they are there.

Also you have the obvious bias and career blocks against right wing people within the industry because....you know....it turns out that in many respects the left are exactly the same as what they used to complain about.....tribalism always wins.

There are right wing comedians....it's just that they keep their head down....because that's the society the outrage mobs on the left have created.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2018 10.35am)

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 08 Aug 18 10.39am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Hmm, I can see where this thread is heading. Was the comment funny; should he be allowed to say it without being attacked by interest groups?

Commenting from another angle, why did he say it? Boris Johnson is the biggest zeitgeist whore in British politics. You name it, if it is popular he will attach himself to it. He has seen how populism can benefit a politician with the success of his pal across the Pond. He can see that you can get away with openly mocking the disabled, blatant racism and misogyny. There will be a strong power base of people who are not appalled but will actually lap it up.

He knows that in a recent poll, a whopping 25% of Brits described themselves as anti-Islam. You can bet that a substantial % of that group are likely to be older and will probably be voters. He knows that too.

His point is a no-brainer. A ban on the burkha is ludicrous. You will either fine women who are dressing how they want; or you are fining the victims of oppression. However, his so called jokes were the real political point.

He is not-so-cleverly seeking to attract the support from that politically active but largely neglected corner of Britain to boost his prospects of securing the top job. It is a high risk tactic and - irrespective of whether I agree with the politics or not - I for one hope it fails.

His model Trump is a fairly disgusting character who has tapped into the lowest base of his nation's psyche AND is an astute businessman who has steered the US economy into prosperous waters. Boris is ONLY the first one. He is a man who really needs to disappear into the political wilderness quickly. He is bad for this country.

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 08 Aug 18 10.48am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Back before the progressive left destroyed comedy you could make jokes about groups and you could make jokes about what people wear......without a movement trying to sack you or other unpersoning attempts.

'Progressive' politics is a cancer on society.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2018 9.50am)

Imagine the BBC broadcasting this now.

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10 years ago this was aired. Look what that cancer has done to this nation in that short time. We are terrified to even debate this, for fear of being tutted at and branded "waycist" by the likes of DanH.

But yeah, enjoy the Boris pile-on. It's utterly transparent that this confected outrage is for political purposes only.

Do you remember the wails of outrage and autistic screeching when Queen of Europe, leader of the liberal free-world, saint Mutti Merkel actually herself VOTED to ban the Burka? Nope, me neither. But look what we have when Boris actually speaks out AGAINST banning it. Odd.

 

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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

DANH do you find this funny, Yes or No?
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Having lived in several European countries for extended periods, I've never come across anyone who makes fun of someone else's language. I've only had this experience when I lived in the UK and when I make occassional visits. It's pre-teen level humour in the UK that's spread to adults, very weird indeed. If you find that funny then you need to travel the world a little more.

I found it insulting to the nationalities involved and a definite zero on content of humour. Still, I'm not surprised that a contingent of UK citizens find humour in insulting others as it's a sign of an inferiority complex and feeling threatened by those who they think will come and take away what they have.

 

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Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Imagine the BBC broadcasting this now.

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It has 397 likes against 23 dislikes on youtube, it would probably go down quite well

 

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Originally posted by europalace

Having lived in several European countries for extended periods, I've never come across anyone who makes fun of someone else's language. I've only had this experience when I lived in the UK and when I make occassional visits. It's pre-teen level humour in the UK that's spread to adults, very weird indeed. If you find that funny then you need to travel the world a little more.

I found it insulting to the nationalities involved and a definite zero on content of humour. Still, I'm not surprised that a contingent of UK citizens find humour in insulting others as it's a sign of an inferiority complex and feeling threatened by those who they think will come and take away what they have.

There was a reason British comedy was once revered around the world.

It wasn't because of opinions like yours.

 


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