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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Aug 18 8.34pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Continually aided by a deluded (in the main) population who truly believe politics really matters despite the evidence staring them square in the face. Priceless.

When one generation grows up and realises that party politics is a circus and that politicians rarely make your life better, another generation comes along who believe in all that cobblers.
Humans learn very little from history and when they do, it is often the wrong lesson.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 12 Aug 18 8.57pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

When one generation grows up and realises that party politics is a circus and that politicians rarely make your life better, another generation comes along who believe in all that cobblers.
Humans learn very little from history and when they do, it is often the wrong lesson.

What we really need to be able to do is go back in time from, say,50 years old to 21, and take all our knowledge and experience with us...... then the world would change ( but not necessarily for the better)

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 12 Aug 18 11.11pm

We just have a an outdated political system built upon class divide which no longer exists

There may be a wealth divide but that exists everywhere it all depends how wide

The whole system needs to be smashed and people elected who aren't egotists straight outa Eton but real everyday people the public can resonate with. Politicians like Boris Johnson and Corbyn don't represent anyone other than themselves and their ideologies

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Aug 18 12.55am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Yeah but then 20 per cent of not very much isn’t exactly that difficult.


Twenty percent in two months is impressive for political parties.

This party is back. You should be pleased, it will probably see your fruitcakes into power....for one term.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Aug 18 12.22pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Twenty percent in two months is impressive for political parties.

This party is back. You should be pleased, it will probably see your fruitcakes into power....for one term.

If traditional Labour voters want to rid themselves of the abomination that the party has become then they best vote Tory. That will see the end of Corbyn, Abbott et al.
UKIP could erode both the Labour and Tory vote if they come back next time.

 

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View Beanyboysmd's Profile Beanyboysmd Flag 13 Aug 18 12.41pm Send a Private Message to Beanyboysmd Add Beanyboysmd as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ukip's membership is up over 20 percent on the last two months.

My YouTube subscribers have doubled in a week but thats still only 4...

 

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 13 Aug 18 12.52pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Continually aided by a deluded (in the main) population who truly believe politics really matters despite the evidence staring them square in the face. Priceless.

So I'm guessing you've never used the NHS, or taken welfare when things are tough, or a local library, school, bus service or train?

We live in an age where finance wields phenomenal power. Politics, however incomplete, is our opportunity to fight back against it, as it hoovers up our local services. Good, accountable, mass movement politics has brought us many things we take for granted in our society, and if we let them slip away through ambivalence, we will all lose out.

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 13 Aug 18 12.54pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

When one generation grows up and realises that party politics is a circus and that politicians rarely make your life better, another generation comes along who believe in all that cobblers.
Humans learn very little from history and when they do, it is often the wrong lesson.

You say all this, but you clearly still have enough faith in the political system to have conviction in your beliefs, and a desire to see them enacted, on immigration, the EU etc?

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Aug 18 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

My YouTube subscribers have doubled in a week but thats still only 4...

In April Ukip had 21,200 paying members...at mostly 30 quid a pop. It's now nearer 30, 000.

It's growing and it's back......and with a soft Brexit it's going to start making a difference.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Aug 2018 1.18pm)

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 13 Aug 18 1.06pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Party politics - where everything that ‘the other side’ proposes has to be routinely decried as abhorrent - is itself abhorrent. Two examples:

This morning the government announced £100m of funds aimed at eradicating rough sleeping. ‘Homeless charities’ welcomed it. The opposition’s boiler-plate response was that the amount was nowhere near enough, and in any case rough sleeping is a direct consequence of the government’s unfair economic policies. [There was, of course, no rough sleeping under any previous Labour government].

When I lived in Herts, a developer wanted to demolish an historic building to build a 4-storey ‘luxury’ apartment block. The site was surrounded by closely-packed Victorian and earlier (listed) terraced houses; including my own. Anyone with half a brain could see that it was an unacceptable proposal, and the (non-partisan) town council objected unanimously. We local residents expressed our outrage to our councillor on the planning authority, who guided us through the (painful) process of engaging with the planning system. After many months came the meeting of the district council planning committee. ‘Our’ councillor declared an interest (having supported our ‘campaign’) and said although he strongly objected to the proposal he would abstain. His party colleagues voted against the plans. The ‘other side’ immediately went into a huddle before their sour-faced leader gleefully announced that all his colleagues would be voting in favour of the plans. One of the most ridiculous charades I have ever witnessed.

 


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.TUX. Flag 13 Aug 18 1.14pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

So I'm guessing you've never used the NHS, or taken welfare when things are tough, or a local library, school, bus service or train?

We live in an age where finance wields phenomenal power. Politics, however incomplete, is our opportunity to fight back against it, as it hoovers up our local services. Good, accountable, mass movement politics has brought us many things we take for granted in our society, and if we let them slip away through ambivalence, we will all lose out.

These have all been around for decades and are all in decline, so i'm not too sure of your point tbh.

No political party has the will/strength to attack the financial sector that truly runs the show. That 'aint the way this game is played.
Finance (the Central Banking system) rules the roost and will do everything they can to maintain the status-quo that continually robs each and everyone of us.
Politics is merely junk food for the brain. It really is that simple.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Aug 18 1.43pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

You say all this, but you clearly still have enough faith in the political system to have conviction in your beliefs, and a desire to see them enacted, on immigration, the EU etc?

I wish one could have faith in politicians but that is a fantasy.
My beliefs are my own, as far as that can be possible, and not party political.
What I say on here is not really very nuanced. I leave the spectacular writing to those who do it for a living and are good at it.

 

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