Hard to disagree. Benteke for sub and to give him time in Reserves & 'B- string' Cup team. Palace needs to regroup especially up front with desperate need to rack up wins against opposition whom we should be beating. Southampton yesterday was one helluva warning shot to both The Eagles. (Shane Long transfer request in January?)

I think that's right, Pete.

The Palace players seem to depend too much on Wilf, and Roy's tetchiness at the press conference on Friday seems to suggest that he feels that way too.

One bad tackle and heaven forfend Wilf could be out for the season. Roy has to develop a plan B and a different mindset in the players. It would also help if he picked players like Meyer who can hold onto the ball and use it creatively.

The first half yesterday was defend deep and hit and hope.

55 years on the Palace rollercoaster!

Well he might not be fit for the game anyway - a mixed blessing. I seem to recall they also had a go at him in the away game as well.

Completely agreed - we need to begin to win without Wilf.

The problem is, you take out Wilf, and who do we have that can actually win us games, score, be a danger, create assists?

We literally are a one-man team.

I think we miss Cabaye much more then we realise.

It's time for Ayew to start, and then Bentecke to be dropped. I'm not sure Sorloth will ever come good - I've been watching Palace long enough to see a punt on a player workout, and Sorloth looks miles away right now. That said, never say never and I hope to be proved wrong.

What a disappointing start to the season after a convincing first game. A few more losses and we'll all be in panic mode. Roy needs to make some bold choices - drop Bentecke, and start Meyer/Kouyate/Ayew.

We need 1 other player who provides an outlet. Looking back, Bolassie used to fill that role. He would terrorise fullbacks and had that ability to get the crowd excted - even though he wasn't the same calibre as Wilf, but that gave us so much more going forward having both of them in the team.

I'm sorry but Townsend doesn't really cut the mustard. He's a good crosser of the ball, but most of the time he seems to be falling a bit short. Compare him to a Walcott type player who will score every other week. A Walcott/Richarlison level player is what we need. We don't have that. We rely on ONE player for everything and the team is bog-standard outside of that.

We just don't have enough talent. The three new players look like they do have talent + AWB. But the rest of the team look a bit slow and heavy on the touch to be honest.

This with the possible exception of Soare. Anybody know how he has been performing? Anything like his pre-accident form?

Townsend and Schlupp should be consigned to the bench along with Benteke
Start Ayew, Kouyate and Meyer.
PVA is suffering having Schlupp playing badly in front of him and Luka needs some creative help.
Leave Wilf out oop north - we should still get a result.