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Originally posted by lightandbitter

Whilst I agree Zaha needs protection from referees, his own credibility suffers a bit with the way he reacts. The foul today was nowhere near as bad as the Watford incident but he went down like he was in terrible agony clutching his leg. Only problem was he wasnt clutching the leg that was fouled. Lets himself down with that sort of thing. I certainly dont agree with the "compliment" comments but you rarely see Messi play acting like that and he gets fouled far more.

This must be a wind up,you're talking absolute nonsense.

 

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chateauferret Flag 17 Sep 18 12.33am

Originally posted by highbury eagle

It's strange, I recall a different response when Puncheon 'complimented' Kevin De Bruyne last season.

Puncheon was stupid and clumsy, not deliberately violent. He panicked and he wasn't up to stopping the player. He couldn't have complained if he'd been sent off but any ban would have been academic because of his injury.

Had he been doing his job of course he would have been following up Milivojevic' penalty and the ball would have been in the back of City's net.

Edited by chateauferret (17 Sep 2018 12.36am)

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 17 Sep 18 1.20am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Pundits are paid to talk 5hlt, not sense

This is right, sensible pundits get less airtime

 


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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 17 Sep 18 1.24am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

I think the difference with the Puncheon tackle and the fouls on Wilf are that De Bruyne wasn't targeted. With Wilf he gets fouled so much every match.

He is targeted by certain clubs who use different players to foul him during the match and therefore lessen the chances of any one player getting a yellow let alone a red.

 


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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 17 Sep 18 6.34am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

I think the difference with the Puncheon tackle and the fouls on Wilf are that De Bruyne wasn't targeted. With Wilf he gets fouled so much every match.

He is targeted by certain clubs who use different players to foul him during the match and therefore lessen the chances of any one player getting a yellow let alone a red.

If we werent such a one man team, he wouldn't get fouled so much. It's only because apart from him we hold no threat, that he gets targetted every game. Stop zaha, you stop palace. If townsend or benteke/Ayew started producing a bit more of a threat it would take the pressure off him.

 

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View Chubskip's Profile Chubskip Flag 17 Sep 18 8.21am Send a Private Message to Chubskip Add Chubskip as a friend

Without doubt he receives special attention but I agree with earlier posts that he also gets drawn in to traps. Against Watford and on Saturday after he was fouled he appeared to lose his head and left his foot in and got booked. I think I understand what was said by Wright and Shearer but how he turns another cheek, I just don't know how he will do that. Wright did admit to being a hot head when he received special attention.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 17 Sep 18 10.08am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

They are right, It should be seen as Compliment. However, this does NOT mean that the offenders should not be punished, either at the time or retrospectively.

He deserves protection from the refs as does all the other class players like hazard/de Bruyne.

 


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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 17 Sep 18 10.28am Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Regarding zaha's 'bravery to speak out' , i applaud him. And would remind Eagles that he WILL get a serious leg break or worse if the referees allow the hacking to continue.

i would rather upset the refereeing applecart than suffer a potential career-ending injury.

I agree. He is right to speak out. He, and other players like him, don't get enough protection from referees. I've already seen a number of fouls on him this season which warranted yellows or reds which were under-punished. It will keep happening unless referees improve and the PGMOL improve their training and education of referees.

Interestingly the NFL has this season introduced new rules which provide more protection to quarterbacks. The point of the new rules is to minimise the risks of injury to QBs as the new rules make it illegal for tacklers to land on top of QBs when making tackles and strengthens the roughing rules. The reason they've done this is because the NFL knows that the QBs are the most important players to their teams and to the entertainment value of the league. So they protect them. Referees should be instructed to give defenders in general much less leeway when they make challenges that are dangerous, where they come off their feet, or where sides are practising rotational fouling. Ultimately if you kick players like Zaha, Hazard etc out of the game the product becomes much less appealing. You want to watch a contest, but seeing skilful players run past defenders and score goals like Wilf did on Saturday is what you really want to see.

For balance, I would say that Palace were lucky not to have players sent off against Man City last season and de Bruyne didn't get enough protection from the ref.


Edited by CambridgeEagle (17 Sep 2018 10.30am)

 

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Edited by CambridgeEagle (17 Sep 2018 10.29am)

 

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View Kant's Profile Kant Flag exeter 17 Sep 18 10.51am Send a Private Message to Kant Add Kant as a friend

I would have preferred it if the plea for protection had come from Roy or another senior representative of CPFC rather than from Wilf himself.

When it comes from the player it immediately opens him up to a charge of whinging and can be counter productive.

I was however impressed by Robbie Savage's impassioned support for Wilf's case on Saturday's 606.

 

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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 17 Sep 18 10.55am Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

If we werent such a one man team, he wouldn't get fouled so much. It's only because apart from him we hold no threat, that he gets targetted every game. Stop zaha, you stop palace. If townsend or benteke/Ayew started producing a bit more of a threat it would take the pressure off him.

This is the real prob,em and the answer to it.
Any team that depends on one player to win games will suffer similarly. K

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 17 Sep 18 11.03am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

I read Jamie Redknapps article today and he agrees that Wilf should be protected more. Garth Crooks argues that he should let the pundits and refs sort it out, yes Garth I'm sure Wilf will love that with his leg in a cast.

 


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