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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Sep 18 11.58am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He lost to drugs, booze and misadventure.
He still beat Frank Bruno twice while not bothering to train so a fit Mike would have made mincemeat of our AJ make no mistake. I'm not sure AJ would have laid a glove on Ali before his suspension and Lennox Lewis is in another class. He beats everyone in his prime.


Perhaps.

What do you think is going to happen with this up coming Fury/Wilder fight on December 1st?

I think Fury is going to hit the canvas mid to late rounds.......I think he's 'cashing out'.

(double post...apologies)

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2018 11.59am)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You were lucky to miss the undercard.

...aint that the truth!!

i sincerely hope with limonchenko in the audience that he would like to be on the next undercard at an AJ fight...now THAT would be worth the money!

 


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Originally posted by Lyons550

...aint that the truth!!

i sincerely hope with limonchenko in the audience that he would like to be on the next undercard at an AJ fight...now THAT would be worth the money!


High tech is one hell of a fighter.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Sep 18 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Perhaps.

What do you think is going to happen with this up coming Fury/Wilder fight on December 1st?

I think Fury is going to hit the canvas mid to late rounds.......I think he's 'cashing out'.

(double post...apologies)

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2018 11.59am)

It's hard to say for sure because neither man has fought anyone good and in their prime.

I think it is hard to imagine that Fury can beat Wilder after two laughable warm up fights after so long out of the ring. He will also have to knock him out to win in the US.
This is very much a money fight for Fury, He knows he can take a loss, blame it on his lay off or a home decision and still have a domestic payday against AJ later.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

High tech is one hell of a fighter.

If AJ stays on his throne for a few years i can see Wembley muscling in on the Vegas market and more and more fights coming over....gone are the days when lloyd Honeghan causes a massive upset v Don Curry in a small, smokey venue holding no more than 5,000

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's hard to say for sure because neither man has fought anyone good and in their prime.

I think it is hard to imagine that Fury can beat Wilder after two laughable warm up fights after so long out of the ring. He will also have to knock him out to win in the US.
This is very much a money fight for Fury, He knows he can take a loss, blame it on his lay off or a home decision and still have a domestic payday against AJ later.

Don't be surprised if Fury or indeed Wilder pull out of the December fight.

There are good arguments against either of them taking that fight.

 


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Originally posted by Lyons550

If AJ stays on his throne for a few years i can see Wembley muscling in on the Vegas market and more and more fights coming over....gone are the days when lloyd Honeghan causes a massive upset v Don Curry in a small, smokey venue holding no more than 5,000


The ragamuffin.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 24 Sep 18 1.15pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He won the title at 20. He just had a lot of fights.
What you have to understand is that after beating Berbick, Spinks, Holmes and the rest, he stopped training properly, started partying and lost his desire to fight.
The losses against Holyfield and Douglas were a result of that and he beat our great hope Bruno after going on a bender.
Watching AJ struggle to cope with Povetkin's overhand rights and uppercuts made me smile. The young Tyson would have destroyed him.

I know nothing about Boxing? Whatever you say.

In the fight against Douglas, Douglas worked out a strategy to beat Tyson. Tyson's previous fights ended early, no longer than 5 rounds so Douglas worked his jab and kept out of range. Sure enough Tyson tired in the later rounds and Douglas took him out in the 10th. Now perhaps Tyson thought he was invincible at that point and took his eye off the ball, didn't prepare well enough.

But that remains the question, if he doesn't bulldoze his opponent and get the KO early doors, he fades and ends up getting outboxed. Evander Holyfield was used to going the distance, he had great stamina and a great chin. He beats Tyson all day long. How many fights did Tyson win on points? 1 I believe ?

Whether he would have the same success in this era is debatable because the sport has moved on

You say that AJ struggled against Povetkin, must have been watching a different fight, I thought AJ was comfortable all night.

 


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I remember the first Bruno v Tyson when Bruno rocked Tyson with a left hook and didn't jump in and finish him off.

I think if that was AJ he would of finished iron Mike off.

Still both Iron Mike and Lennox Lewis think AJ is the real deal.

Bring on AJ v Wilder on April 13,Wembley stadium.

BOOOOOOM

 

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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

In the fight against Douglas, Douglas worked out a strategy to beat Tyson. Tyson's previous fights ended early, no longer than 5 rounds so Douglas worked his jab and kept out of range. Sure enough Tyson tired in the later rounds and Douglas took him out in the 10th. Now perhaps Tyson thought he was invincible at that point and took his eye off the ball, didn't prepare well enough.

But that remains the question, if he doesn't bulldoze his opponent and get the KO early doors, he fades and ends up getting outboxed. Evander Holyfield was used to going the distance, he had great stamina and a great chin. He beats Tyson all day long. How many fights did Tyson win on points? 1 I believe ?

Whether he would have the same success in this era is debatable because the sport has moved on

You say that AJ struggled against Povetkin, must have been watching a different fight, I thought AJ was comfortable all night.

Douglas was a bang average fighter. If you believe that he fought the best Tyson that night then good luck with that. Tyson even knocked Douglas out but the ref did a slow count.
If you read Tyson's book you will understand why his boxing went rapidly down hill. You only need to see the Douglas fight compard to previous fights to see how his ring demeanor had changed and his performance was declining. There is no comparison between the early and declining Tyson.
AJ looked awkward and nervous against Povetkin. He would have been blasted out early against prime Tyson. I'm not sure why you think boxing has improved so much recently. There has been no great heavyweight since Lennox Lewis. If he and Tyson were around now and in shape, they would dominate.

 

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Originally posted by black eagle.

I remember the first Bruno v Tyson when Bruno rocked Tyson with a left hook and didn't jump in and finish him off.

I think if that was AJ he would of finished iron Mike off.

Still both Iron Mike and Lennox Lewis think AJ is the real deal.

Bring on AJ v Wilder on April 13,Wembley stadium.

BOOOOOOM


Ha ha. Tyson got caught with one punch and Harry Carpenter shat his pants.
Two Brunos couldn't have beaten Tyson. Bruno was s*** scared of him.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Ha ha. Tyson got caught with one punch and Harry Carpenter shat his pants.
Two Brunos couldn't have beaten Tyson. Bruno was s*** scared of him.

Bruno might of been scared but AJ wouldn't have been.

 

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