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Crazy_Eagle South London 23 Sep 18 12.47pm
I'm not too surprised - it's all because of a lack of goal threat. It was obvious we needed to go big on someone to replace/compete with Benteke. Jordan Ayew (roughly 1 goal in every 5 games for Swansea and Villa) was unlikely to be that player. R.I.P. DJ Hardline CPFC2010
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South London 23 Sep 18 12.47pm

I'm not too surprised - it's all because of a lack of goal threat.

It was obvious we needed to go big on someone to replace/compete with Benteke. Jordan Ayew (roughly 1 goal in every 5 games for Swansea and Villa) was unlikely to be that player.

R.I.P. DJ Hardline

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Petereagle Brockley 23 Sep 18 1.53pm
Originally posted by manoftaste I too have been a bit surprised (esp after the good run of friendlies before the season started). But with no Cabaye and no Loftus-Cheek, is it really that surprising? That’s the key point I think. Really important players like Cabaye and Loftus Cheek, and what we have done at best is replace them with players like Meyer and Ayew who are still finding their way. We have not spent big to actually add to the quality of last year. Arguably the squad as a whole is weaker than last year. Having said that, a year ago were on zero points and adrift at the bottom of the table. The fact that we are 11th on 7 points is in that context a huge achievement given how little in net terms we have spent on players. If we can finish the season mid table but without the terrible struggles we have had with relegation previously that would be a huge achievement. For a club of our size and relatively small spending power compared to the man city’s etc that’s good enough.
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Brockley 23 Sep 18 1.53pm

Originally posted by manoftaste

I too have been a bit surprised (esp after the good run of friendlies before the season started). But with no Cabaye and no Loftus-Cheek, is it really that surprising?

That’s the key point I think. Really important players like Cabaye and Loftus Cheek, and what we have done at best is replace them with players like Meyer and Ayew who are still finding their way. We have not spent big to actually add to the quality of last year. Arguably the squad as a whole is weaker than last year. Having said that, a year ago were on zero points and adrift at the bottom of the table. The fact that we are 11th on 7 points is in that context a huge achievement given how little in net terms we have spent on players. If we can finish the season mid table but without the terrible struggles we have had with relegation previously that would be a huge achievement. For a club of our size and relatively small spending power compared to the man city’s etc that’s good enough.

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dp Tunbridge Wells 23 Sep 18 2.14pm
Originally posted by Booted Eagle My benchmark is 12 points from 12 games and that is actually going to be very tough now based on our next 6 fixtures, Bournemouth, Wolves, Everton, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham. Need a win and a couple of draws to be there. Happy to have this season between 10th-15th and no flirting with relegation. Certainly will need better performances in these 6 than the first 6 to achieve this. Edited by Booted Eagle (23 Sep 2018 11.02am) My benchmark is 40 points after 38 games. We are looking Ok for that. 11 wins in 31 games.
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Tunbridge Wells 23 Sep 18 2.14pm

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

My benchmark is 12 points from 12 games and that is actually going to be very tough now based on our next 6 fixtures, Bournemouth, Wolves, Everton, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham. Need a win and a couple of draws to be there. Happy to have this season between 10th-15th and no flirting with relegation. Certainly will need better performances in these 6 than the first 6 to achieve this.

Edited by Booted Eagle (23 Sep 2018 11.02am)

My benchmark is 40 points after 38 games. We are looking Ok for that. 11 wins in 31 games.

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monkey Sittingbourne,Kent 23 Sep 18 3.20pm
Originally posted by Croydonlad We look a little lethargic at the moment Don’t move the ball fast enough and of course we don’t have a goal scorer Sums us up perfectly at the moment!! But on a positive note, we’ve got 7 points on the board without playing well, we only had 5 towards the end of November last year, so we’ve got plenty of time to shape up. Edited by monkey (23 Sep 2018 3.21pm) Made in Bromley
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Sittingbourne,Kent 23 Sep 18 3.20pm

Originally posted by Croydonlad

We look a little lethargic at the moment
Don’t move the ball fast enough and of course we don’t have a goal scorer

Sums us up perfectly at the moment!!

But on a positive note, we’ve got 7 points on the board without playing well, we only had 5 towards the end of November last year, so we’ve got plenty of time to shape up.

Edited by monkey (23 Sep 2018 3.21pm)

Made in Bromley

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Pete53 Hassocks 23 Sep 18 6.55pm
Originally posted by Booted Eagle My benchmark is 12 points from 12 games and that is actually going to be very tough now based on our next 6 fixtures, Bournemouth, Wolves, Everton, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham. Need a win and a couple of draws to be there. Happy to have this season between 10th-15th and no flirting with relegation. Certainly will need better performances in these 6 than the first 6 to achieve this. Edited by Booted Eagle (23 Sep 2018 11.02am) And Man Utd after Tottenham ....
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Pete53

Hassocks 23 Sep 18 6.55pm

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Edited by Booted Eagle (23 Sep 2018 11.02am)

And Man Utd after Tottenham ....

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Sep 18 7.15pm
Originally posted by Petereagle That’s the key point I think. Really important players like Cabaye and Loftus Cheek, and what we have done at best is replace them with players like Meyer and Ayew who are still finding their way. We have not spent big to actually add to the quality of last year. Arguably the squad as a whole is weaker than last year. Having said that, a year ago were on zero points and adrift at the bottom of the table. The fact that we are 11th on 7 points is in that context a huge achievement given how little in net terms we have spent on players. If we can finish the season mid table but without the terrible struggles we have had with relegation previously that would be a huge achievement. For a club of our size and relatively small spending power compared to the man city’s etc that’s good enough. In pre-season our net spend was some £10 Mill which is a relevant pittance in PL terms. Huddersfield net spend was £33 Mill, whilst Brighton's was some £52 Mill. Edited by Willo (23 Sep 2018 7.21pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Sep 18 7.15pm

Originally posted by Petereagle

That’s the key point I think. Really important players like Cabaye and Loftus Cheek, and what we have done at best is replace them with players like Meyer and Ayew who are still finding their way. We have not spent big to actually add to the quality of last year. Arguably the squad as a whole is weaker than last year. Having said that, a year ago were on zero points and adrift at the bottom of the table. The fact that we are 11th on 7 points is in that context a huge achievement given how little in net terms we have spent on players. If we can finish the season mid table but without the terrible struggles we have had with relegation previously that would be a huge achievement. For a club of our size and relatively small spending power compared to the man city’s etc that’s good enough.

In pre-season our net spend was some £10 Mill which is a relevant pittance in PL terms.

Huddersfield net spend was £33 Mill, whilst Brighton's was some £52 Mill.

Edited by Willo (23 Sep 2018 7.21pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Sep 18 7.35pm
Average start, average team. No huge surprise - on course for around the same tally of points as last year. A good striker would transform us but cannot see much happening with us being comfortable enough. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Sep 18 7.35pm

Average start, average team. No huge surprise - on course for around the same tally of points as last year.
A good striker would transform us but cannot see much happening with us being comfortable enough.

Red and Blue Army!

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 23 Sep 18 7.50pm
Originally posted by Tequila Sunrise Home results have let us down so far ...... and Sakho couldn’t head into an open goal from 3 yards. It’s a game of small margins. Both Sakho and Ward (vs Watford) should have scored. If they had we would be on 10 points and this thread would have an entirely different feel.
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Bexley Kent 23 Sep 18 7.50pm

Originally posted by Tequila Sunrise

Home results have let us down so far
...... and Sakho couldn’t head into an open goal from 3 yards.

It’s a game of small margins. Both Sakho and Ward (vs Watford) should have scored. If they had we would be on 10 points and this thread would have an entirely different feel.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 23 Sep 18 8.31pm
just a sub par start. we might go on an above par run. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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just a sub par start. we might go on an above par run.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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Painter Croydon 23 Sep 18 8.37pm
Originally posted by Willo In pre-season our net spend was some £10 Mill which is a relevant pittance in PL terms. Huddersfield net spend was £33 Mill, whilst Brighton's was some £52 Mill. Edited by Willo (23 Sep 2018 7.21pm) West Ham spent £100m, so what. £18m of that on Wilshire who cant run. Its not about how much you spend, its about if you can get the right players to improve the team and squad.
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Croydon 23 Sep 18 8.37pm

Originally posted by Willo

In pre-season our net spend was some £10 Mill which is a relevant pittance in PL terms.

Huddersfield net spend was £33 Mill, whilst Brighton's was some £52 Mill.

Edited by Willo (23 Sep 2018 7.21pm)

West Ham spent £100m, so what. £18m of that on Wilshire who cant run.

Its not about how much you spend, its about if you can get the right players to improve the team and squad.

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cryrst The garden of England 23 Sep 18 9.48pm
Originally posted by Goldfiinger Personally think Wilf should be playing more centrally. Think his talent is nullified out wide and unless he beats three men his movement comes to nothing much. Really think if he was more central he’d have more joy himself and more joy bring others in to play. Still think we’ve had a positive start to the season. If we spend all season around 11th then it’s been an unstressful year for once... I do think we’ll click in to gear soon though and give someone a pasting. It’s nice to see us playing below our best and picking points up. Newcastle absolutely didn’t want to play, and that’s testament to our team and where we’re at. No way we’re in a relegation fight this year. And that in its self is great news. Wilf is our best finisher and our most creative player. As such imo he should be played central.... with Andros and Jordan either side. No idea what Max is like yet, but I’m happy with the other two signings, both look like premiership players imo. At a guess it’ll take max time to understand the pace of the premiership and with a quality midfield this might make it tough for him to break through quickly. No doubt at some point he’ll come good.. Also feel like PVA has been asked not to break forward so much. Understand this does protect us/him from being exposed but blimey I do miss him pushing on. Also think it again limits Wilf options without his support and again means Wilf needs to beat three guys on his own and put ball in the net for us to score. Is the team actually more balanced with Schlupp playing... think him, PVA and Wilf all click when played on the left. Maybe that’s what’s missing if Wilf is to flourish there...? Edited by Goldfiinger (23 Sep 2018 10.33am) I noticed pva holding back as well. Im not sure if he trusts sakho not to make the obligitory once a game mistake if he leaves the space just inside the halfway line. I think its because sakho has a lack of knowing where row z is or just a defenders hoof up the park. Much as he can find a pass its generally a guess as to what shirt that is to. Needs to be a bit more old fashion in his defending a bit more often IMO.
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cryrst

The garden of England 23 Sep 18 9.48pm

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Personally think Wilf should be playing more centrally. Think his talent is nullified out wide and unless he beats three men his movement comes to nothing much.

Really think if he was more central he’d have more joy himself and more joy bring others in to play.

Still think we’ve had a positive start to the season. If we spend all season around 11th then it’s been an unstressful year for once...

I do think we’ll click in to gear soon though and give someone a pasting. It’s nice to see us playing below our best and picking points up.

Newcastle absolutely didn’t want to play, and that’s testament to our team and where we’re at. No way we’re in a relegation fight this year. And that in its self is great news.

Wilf is our best finisher and our most creative player. As such imo he should be played central.... with Andros and Jordan either side.

No idea what Max is like yet, but I’m happy with the other two signings, both look like premiership players imo.

At a guess it’ll take max time to understand the pace of the premiership and with a quality midfield this might make it tough for him to break through quickly. No doubt at some point he’ll come good..

Also feel like PVA has been asked not to break forward so much. Understand this does protect us/him from being exposed but blimey I do miss him pushing on. Also think it again limits Wilf options without his support and again means Wilf needs to beat three guys on his own and put ball in the net for us to score.

Is the team actually more balanced with Schlupp playing... think him, PVA and Wilf all click when played on the left. Maybe that’s what’s missing if Wilf is to flourish there...?

Edited by Goldfiinger (23 Sep 2018 10.33am)

I noticed pva holding back as well.
Im not sure if he trusts sakho not to make the obligitory once a game mistake if he leaves the space just inside the halfway line.
I think its because sakho has a lack of knowing where row z is or just a defenders hoof up the park.
Much as he can find a pass its generally a guess as to what shirt that is to.
Needs to be a bit more old fashion in his defending a bit more often IMO.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Sep 18 10.56pm
Originally posted by Painter West Ham spent £100m, so what. £18m of that on Wilshire who cant run. Its not about how much you spend, its about if you can get the right players to improve the team and squad. I was just providing a figure in response to a poster who alluded to the fact that our net spend wasn't a great deal in PL terms.It was not meant as any criticism at all.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Sep 18 10.56pm

Originally posted by Painter

West Ham spent £100m, so what. £18m of that on Wilshire who cant run.

Its not about how much you spend, its about if you can get the right players to improve the team and squad.

I was just providing a figure in response to a poster who alluded to the fact that our net spend wasn't a great deal in PL terms.It was not meant as any criticism at all.

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