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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 10 Oct 18 9.14pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Poor tekkers in the original judgement and the appeal??

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 10 Oct 18 9.26pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Cake ? talk about trying to ram political correctness down the throats of the unbelievers in this new religion of the mass media.


the DUP dinosaur types versus the militant PC loons.

Same as 30 years of troubles in Ulster.

Everybody loses.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Oct 18 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

Chill out snowflake. You've tried reporting people for less.

What?

 

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 10 Oct 18 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

I think it’s stupid not to bake a cake for a gay, a Jew, Muslim, black, Asian etc – but the bakers are entitled to their freedom of speech.

The main point is the government should have no role in telling private business owners who they can serve. And as mentioned, the £250k legal cost to the tax payer is a total disgrace.

The free market will decide if the business gets affected by the decisions owners make.

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Oct 2018 10.50pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 10 Oct 18 11.14pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I think it’s stupid not to bake a cake for a gay, a Jew, Muslim, black, Asian etc – but the bakers are entitled to their freedom of speech.

The main point is the government should have no role in telling private business owners who they can serve. And as mentioned, the £250k legal cost to the tax payer is a total disgrace.

The free market will decide if the business gets affected by the decisions owners make.

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Oct 2018 10.50pm)

No. This is wrong. It’s like when windows used to say no Irish, no blacks, no dogs.

This case was not about who you would serve. It was about a statement that the request maker possibly knew would be unacceptable to the service provider. I wonder if the Equalities Commission supported Mr Lee only because he made it impossible for them not to. It may have been useful to them to work out if religion trumps sexuality in the Courts. It also has to be remembered this is Norn Oirland.

Clearly a man on a mission who doesn’t care about other people and their honestly held views. Simply collateral damage in his Crusade.

But of course he ‘feels like a second class citizen’ now having not had his own way. Like the Court said, it didn’t matter who he was, just what he wanted writing

Edited by Mapletree (10 Oct 2018 11.15pm)

 

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 10 Oct 18 11.41pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

No. This is wrong. It’s like when windows used to say no Irish, no blacks, no dogs.

This case was not about who you would serve. It was about a statement that the request maker possibly knew would be unacceptable to the service provider. I wonder if the Equalities Commission supported Mr Lee only because he made it impossible for them not to. It may have been useful to them to work out if religion trumps sexuality in the Courts. It also has to be remembered this is Norn Oirland.

Clearly a man on a mission who doesn’t care about other people and their honestly held views. Simply collateral damage in his Crusade.

But of course he ‘feels like a second class citizen’ now having not had his own way. Like the Court said, it didn’t matter who he was, just what he wanted writing

Edited by Mapletree (10 Oct 2018 11.15pm)

No surprise from a leftie. You want the state to control your life and let it trump the rights of a free individual.

Edited by Penge Eagle (11 Oct 2018 12.16am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Oct 18 8.28am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The gay rights activist Peter Thatcell was against this case being brought for the reasons previously stated that it was not about the customer but about the customer wanting a political slogan that the owners did not agree.

If the Supreme Court had upheld the original decision the logical extension of that is that I could walk into an Afro Caribbean bakery and demand a cake with a slogan supporting the KKK.

As other have suggested this was not a Brown versus the Board of Education moment it was a waste of taxpayers money and the Equalities Commission needs to think about this.

For the record I have no problem with gay marriage why shouldn't they be miserable like the rest of us.

 


One more point

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Oct 18 8.54am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I think it’s stupid not to bake a cake for a gay, a Jew, Muslim, black, Asian etc – but the bakers are entitled to their freedom of speech.

The main point is the government should have no role in telling private business owners who they can serve. And as mentioned, the £250k legal cost to the tax payer is a total disgrace.

The free market will decide if the business gets affected by the decisions owners make.

Edited by Penge Eagle (10 Oct 2018 10.50pm)

The point you make about government intervention is correct.
This is a free state.
The other way round is pure fascism.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 11 Oct 18 10.06am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

The point you make about government intervention is correct.
This is a free state.
The other way round is pure fascism.

Is it?


 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View PhuketEagle's Profile PhuketEagle Flag Phuket 11 Oct 18 10.45am Send a Private Message to PhuketEagle Add PhuketEagle as a friend

Apparently the baker offered the gays some nice buns in compensation. (You're fired - Ed.)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Oct 18 11.29am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Is it?


When have you been asked for your papers in the street,or been forced to do anything outside of the norm for any of us.
Dont wish too hard or it might come true!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Oct 18 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

No. This is wrong. It’s like when windows used to say no Irish, no blacks, no dogs.

This case was not about who you would serve. It was about a statement that the request maker possibly knew would be unacceptable to the service provider. I wonder if the Equalities Commission supported Mr Lee only because he made it impossible for them not to. It may have been useful to them to work out if religion trumps sexuality in the Courts. It also has to be remembered this is Norn Oirland.

Clearly a man on a mission who doesn’t care about other people and their honestly held views. Simply collateral damage in his Crusade.

But of course he ‘feels like a second class citizen’ now having not had his own way. Like the Court said, it didn’t matter who he was, just what he wanted writing

Edited by Mapletree (10 Oct 2018 11.15pm)

I will never defend religious loons but you cannot force someone to provide a service against their will.
That in itself would constitute a serious restriction of personal freedom.
Your comparison is inaccurate. No one put any signs up saying no gays. That would be illegal. This is about freedom of choice for a private business.

 

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