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Mapletree Croydon 03 Dec 18 8.39pm
Originally posted by bicycle repair man Oh dear, do I have "learning difficulties", or "mental problems" ? It seems the debating level of the pro HF brigade is plummeting to new depths. One person is a Brigade is it. Where I come from it's more like 3,000. Mind you, I don't think there was ever a cycle brigade, just battalions.
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Croydon 03 Dec 18 8.39pm

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Oh dear,
do I have "learning difficulties", or "mental problems" ?
It seems the debating level of the pro HF brigade is plummeting to new depths.

One person is a Brigade is it.

Where I come from it's more like 3,000.

Mind you, I don't think there was ever a cycle brigade, just battalions.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Dec 18 9.26pm
Originally posted by Mapletree One person is a Brigade is it. Where I come from it's more like 3,000. Mind you, I don't think there was ever a cycle brigade, just battalions. BRM is in a dark workshop. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 03 Dec 18 9.26pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

One person is a Brigade is it.

Where I come from it's more like 3,000.

Mind you, I don't think there was ever a cycle brigade, just battalions.

BRM is in a dark workshop.

COYP

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RH8Eagle Oxted 03 Dec 18 9.39pm
Would be great if we could try out the new singing section for the cup game might just convert a few of the doubters.
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Oxted 03 Dec 18 9.39pm

Would be great if we could try out the new singing section for the cup game might just convert a few of the doubters.

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stanzerman Hastings 03 Dec 18 9.59pm
Originally posted by The_postman The singing without the HF was sporadic and died out fairly quickly. What you get from the HF is constant singing from the first to last minute regardless of what is happening on the pitch. Constant singing needs to be orchestrated and they do that very well. The HF do not create a great atomosphere by themselves (alone they are not loud enough) but they are a vital catalyst. It is much easier for the rest of us to join in and turn up the volume to create a great atmosphere. Sorry but 'atmosphere' is not created by constant singing regardless of what is happening on the pitch. It is more exciting when it rises and falls with the ebb and flow of the game. Constant singing becomes just background noise which, if it doesn't follow the game, could easily be replaced by the club recording the crowd at one of the big clubs and then constantly playing it over the selhurst sound system Stanzerman
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Hastings 03 Dec 18 9.59pm

Originally posted by The_postman

The singing without the HF was sporadic and died out fairly quickly. What you get from the HF is constant singing from the first to last minute regardless of what is happening on the pitch. Constant singing needs to be orchestrated and they do that very well. The HF do not create a great atomosphere by themselves (alone they are not loud enough) but they are a vital catalyst. It is much easier for the rest of us to join in and turn up the volume to create a great atmosphere.

Sorry but 'atmosphere' is not created by constant singing regardless of what is happening on the pitch. It is more exciting when it rises and falls with the ebb and flow of the game. Constant singing becomes just background noise which, if it doesn't follow the game, could easily be replaced by the club recording the crowd at one of the big clubs and then constantly playing it over the selhurst sound system

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Eager eagle Rainham Kent 03 Dec 18 10.15pm
I sit in the Arthur and everyone i spoke to agreed the atmosphere was much improved, and that was before the game started. It has been pretty flat without them.
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Rainham Kent 03 Dec 18 10.15pm

I sit in the Arthur and everyone i spoke to agreed the atmosphere was much improved, and that was before the game started.
It has been pretty flat without them.

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Maine Eagle USA 04 Dec 18 12.00am
Originally posted by bicycle repair man The enhanced atmosphere was caused by a terrific display by the team,and a vital victory. Nothing to do with the part-time "fanatics",turning up. Bicycle repair man, how many times have you commented on this thread? 50? You are relentless, almost like Trump bashing out his one sided tweets day after day, and bashing the "fake news". Fake news for you seems to be the CLEAR difference in atmosphere and noise level that the HF bring. Opposition players have said it, our players have said it, our manager has said it, and our chairman has said it. Whether or not they should be moved or not moved to Block E has absolutely nothing to do with an analysis of what they actually bring to the ground and the club as a whole. Performance on the pitch, fan passion, noise level......these are not disconnected, they are related to each other! A loss in one area CAN and DOES affect the other 2. I am sorry but you have very little credibility left on this topic as you simply fail to ever acknowledge anyone else's point of view. Anyone claiming that the HF did not have an impact on the atmosphere at the ground yesterday is crazy. Anyone claiming that noise level and atmosphere at football grounds doesn't have an impact on how the team performs is also crazy, go look at games played behind closed doors such as England vs Croatia and sit through that 90 minutes then come back to me. Time to face reality: A - Decision has been made by Parish. B - HF are being moved and singing section being created. C - the HF are an important part of our support and they lead chanting and massively impact noise levels and atmosphere in the ground. D - fans do not own seats in Selhurst Park, the club does. I am sorry for fans affected by this but its happening and its time to move on. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.
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USA 04 Dec 18 12.00am

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

The enhanced atmosphere was caused by a terrific display by the team,and a vital victory.
Nothing to do with the part-time "fanatics",turning up.

Bicycle repair man, how many times have you commented on this thread? 50?

You are relentless, almost like Trump bashing out his one sided tweets day after day, and bashing the "fake news".

Fake news for you seems to be the CLEAR difference in atmosphere and noise level that the HF bring. Opposition players have said it, our players have said it, our manager has said it, and our chairman has said it.

Whether or not they should be moved or not moved to Block E has absolutely nothing to do with an analysis of what they actually bring to the ground and the club as a whole.

Performance on the pitch, fan passion, noise level......these are not disconnected, they are related to each other! A loss in one area CAN and DOES affect the other 2.

I am sorry but you have very little credibility left on this topic as you simply fail to ever acknowledge anyone else's point of view.

Anyone claiming that the HF did not have an impact on the atmosphere at the ground yesterday is crazy. Anyone claiming that noise level and atmosphere at football grounds doesn't have an impact on how the team performs is also crazy, go look at games played behind closed doors such as England vs Croatia and sit through that 90 minutes then come back to me.

Time to face reality:

A - Decision has been made by Parish.
B - HF are being moved and singing section being created.
C - the HF are an important part of our support and they lead chanting and massively impact noise levels and atmosphere in the ground.
D - fans do not own seats in Selhurst Park, the club does.

I am sorry for fans affected by this but its happening and its time to move on.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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bicycle repair man 04 Dec 18 12.46am
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Bicycle repair man, how many times have you commented on this thread? 50? You are relentless, almost like Trump bashing out his one sided tweets day after day, and bashing the "fake news". Fake news for you seems to be the CLEAR difference in atmosphere and noise level that the HF bring. Opposition players have said it, our players have said it, our manager has said it, and our chairman has said it. Whether or not they should be moved or not moved to Block E has absolutely nothing to do with an analysis of what they actually bring to the ground and the club as a whole. Performance on the pitch, fan passion, noise level......these are not disconnected, they are related to each other! A loss in one area CAN and DOES affect the other 2. I am sorry but you have very little credibility left on this topic as you simply fail to ever acknowledge anyone else's point of view. Anyone claiming that the HF did not have an impact on the atmosphere at the ground yesterday is crazy. Anyone claiming that noise level and atmosphere at football grounds doesn't have an impact on how the team performs is also crazy, go look at games played behind closed doors such as England vs Croatia and sit through that 90 minutes then come back to me. Time to face reality: A - Decision has been made by Parish. B - HF are being moved and singing section being created. C - the HF are an important part of our support and they lead chanting and massively impact noise levels and atmosphere in the ground. D - fans do not own seats in Selhurst Park, the club does. I am sorry for fans affected by this but its happening and its time to move on. The usual deluded nonsense,from someone who thinks only their view counts. The part-time HF are no more important than any other Palace fans. I personally don't care either way whether they attend or not.I enjoy going to Selhurst Park to watch my team,not to watch a bunch of guys jumping about waving flags etc. It's a fact that the HF have had no affect on team performances whatsoever,we have one of the worst home records in the land. I have nothing particularly against the HF,and they used to be great fun,until they started to get too big for their boots,and decided they were superior to other Palace supporters. The increase in noise level and atmosphere at the Burnley game was entirely due to the fantastic performance of the players, and the elation of finally winning at home.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Bicycle repair man, how many times have you commented on this thread? 50?

You are relentless, almost like Trump bashing out his one sided tweets day after day, and bashing the "fake news".

Whether or not they should be moved or not moved to Block E has absolutely nothing to do with an analysis of what they actually bring to the ground and the club as a whole.

Performance on the pitch, fan passion, noise level......these are not disconnected, they are related to each other! A loss in one area CAN and DOES affect the other 2.

I am sorry but you have very little credibility left on this topic as you simply fail to ever acknowledge anyone else's point of view.

Time to face reality:

I am sorry for fans affected by this but its happening and its time to move on.

The usual deluded nonsense,from someone who thinks only their view counts.
The part-time HF are no more important than any other Palace fans.
I personally don't care either way whether they attend or not.I enjoy going to Selhurst Park to watch my team,not to watch a bunch of guys jumping about waving flags etc.
It's a fact that the HF have had no affect on team performances whatsoever,we have one of the worst home records in the land.
I have nothing particularly against the HF,and they used to be great fun,until they started to get too big for their boots,and decided they were superior to other Palace supporters.
The increase in noise level and atmosphere at the Burnley game was entirely due to the fantastic performance of the players, and the elation of finally winning at home.

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BuckinghamshireEagle 04 Dec 18 1.24am
Originally posted by iheartcpfc Well I'm watching the game again now and not on a particularly high volume and we sound superb, constant noise for 90 mins and everyone in sync. No one can say with a straight face that the HF aren't a massive boost to a) our atmosphere and b) the positivity in Selhurst. I respect that it's hard on the 400 Block E fans but I think we really would go to another level there with the roof amplifying the HF's noise and it spreading accordingly, maybe even to Blocks F onwards. Surely that has to be a positive for us when weighed up Sorry but I cannot take seriously anyone who downplays the HF, especially when comparing the games without them to Saturday. When in SP in my seat in Block B found myself beaming when watching the Arthur all singing and bouncing along again and the lads giving their all for the team in front of me. Felt like Palace at our best again Having not been at the game, I can�t comment on the difference that having the HF back made. I would be very surprised if it didn�t significantly improve the atmosphere, but that�s not really the point. The question for me is whether we are a community based club where there is a real bond with the fans or a faceless plc treating its fans as replaceable customers and ready to throw one set under the bus in an attempt to increase it�s marketing appeal. Sadly, we have our answer and I believe we are the poorer for it.
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Originally posted by iheartcpfc

Well I'm watching the game again now and not on a particularly high volume and we sound superb, constant noise for 90 mins and everyone in sync. No one can say with a straight face that the HF aren't a massive boost to a) our atmosphere and b) the positivity in Selhurst. I respect that it's hard on the 400 Block E fans but I think we really would go to another level there with the roof amplifying the HF's noise and it spreading accordingly, maybe even to Blocks F onwards. Surely that has to be a positive for us when weighed up

Sorry but I cannot take seriously anyone who downplays the HF, especially when comparing the games without them to Saturday. When in SP in my seat in Block B found myself beaming when watching the Arthur all singing and bouncing along again and the lads giving their all for the team in front of me. Felt like Palace at our best again

Having not been at the game, I can�t comment on the difference that having the HF back made. I would be very surprised if it didn�t significantly improve the atmosphere, but that�s not really the point. The question for me is whether we are a community based club where there is a real bond with the fans or a faceless plc treating its fans as replaceable customers and ready to throw one set under the bus in an attempt to increase it�s marketing appeal.
Sadly, we have our answer and I believe we are the poorer for it.

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charliehub newforest 04 Dec 18 6.36am
BRM - great. You love going to Selhurst to watch your team play football. Then the end of the Main Stand, or the Whitehorse, or the Arthur, would be fine for you...and your going to be offered a preferential deal! You must be cock a hoop with that! Sit back and enjoy the game! Relax and keep your keyboard quiet! Let the rest of the world move on!
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newforest 04 Dec 18 6.36am

BRM - great. You love going to Selhurst to watch your team play football. Then the end of the Main Stand, or the Whitehorse, or the Arthur, would be fine for you...and your going to be offered a preferential deal! You must be cock a hoop with that! Sit back and enjoy the game! Relax and keep your keyboard quiet! Let the rest of the world move on!

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Goal Machine The Cronx 04 Dec 18 9.04am
Originally posted by RH8Eagle Would be great if we could try out the new singing section for the cup game might just convert a few of the doubters. Over the past few seasons the HF have done exactly that for all home cup games. They will be at the back of block E no doubt for the Grimsby game and I'll be involved for some of that.
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The Cronx 04 Dec 18 9.04am

Originally posted by RH8Eagle

Would be great if we could try out the new singing section for the cup game might just convert a few of the doubters.

Over the past few seasons the HF have done exactly that for all home cup games. They will be at the back of block E no doubt for the Grimsby game and I'll be involved for some of that.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Dec 18 9.09am
Originally posted by bicycle repair man The usual deluded nonsense,from someone who thinks only their view counts. The part-time HF are no more important than any other Palace fans. I personally don't care either way whether they attend or not.I enjoy going to Selhurst Park to watch my team,not to watch a bunch of guys jumping about waving flags etc. It's a fact that the HF have had no affect on team performances whatsoever,we have one of the worst home records in the land. I have nothing particularly against the HF,and they used to be great fun,until they started to get too big for their boots,and decided they were superior to other Palace supporters. The increase in noise level and atmosphere at the Burnley game was entirely due to the fantastic performance of the players, and the elation of finally winning at home. My word, this mirrors the view of a Palace supporter with whom I was engaged in conversation last night.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Dec 18 9.09am

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

My word, this mirrors the view of a Palace supporter with whom I was engaged in conversation last night.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 04 Dec 18 9.12am
Originally posted by charliehub BRM - great. You love going to Selhurst to watch your team play football. Then the end of the Main Stand, or the Whitehorse, or the Arthur, would be fine for you...and your going to be offered a preferential deal! You must be cock a hoop with that! Sit back and enjoy the game! Relax and keep your keyboard quiet! Let the rest of the world move on! BRM is not effected by the seat situation, just feels strongly about fans being moved. However, as proved throughout the thread, and unlike other anti HF/singing section, he hasn't the intellect to discuss the topic, he just bangs on with the same line on repeat. Although I'm guilty of it, best to not rise to his bait. His posts are infuriating. A suitable compensation package from the club to those effected would put an end to this and we can then move on.
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The Cronx 04 Dec 18 9.12am

Originally posted by charliehub

BRM is not effected by the seat situation, just feels strongly about fans being moved. However, as proved throughout the thread, and unlike other anti HF/singing section, he hasn't the intellect to discuss the topic, he just bangs on with the same line on repeat.

Although I'm guilty of it, best to not rise to his bait. His posts are infuriating.

A suitable compensation package from the club to those effected would put an end to this and we can then move on.

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