That on its own is enough to permanently consign anyone to a bathchair.

Can anybody blame him? In january he asked for around 7 additions... got 3, two of which aren't in the squad and one hasn't done anything to improve the squad. This summer, 10 mil was spent, with one bloke costing a fair bit in wages over the 3 years, 4 million a year - so lets call it an even 14 mil spent this summer.

This is the reason why managers have walked... parish is not going to properly invest and support the manager with 'his' team.

Parish needs to go, in my opinion. Don't tell me he doesn't.. it's my opinion and i don't expect anyone to agree, but when you take the rose tinted glasses off, look at how we have handled the past 6 years, it's a joke.

You can spin it any way you like, but this club needs a change.

This was once a quality forum....

The only 2 that walked were Pulis and Allardyce. Pulis was always going to leave, he had a plan to shaft us at his convenience. It was always suspicious he took about 6 weeks to decide to join. Allardyce had £34m spend in his only window, hardly not being backed.

Why should Parish go, he has delivered what no other chairman has, a 6 year run in the Premiership. You aren't a joke, if you can successfully keep a club of our size up, many bigger clubs have failed, ie Villa, Leeds, Forest etc all regarded as bigger clubs than Palace.

They may not why is that because they are better at business then we are and don't resort to panic buying.

Who would you class as being same size club as us?

So it is as i said poor management from the like of SP.

I think you need to look up FFP we are not near the limit the club owners could pump a lot more into it and even if you break the rules you get a fine so it's not like you get punished in a really big way.

Two top managers who have no history of just walking away from clubs also look at the short time frame they hung about for.

Pullis didn't have a plan until later on when he could see he wasn't going to be backed by SP don't talk such rubbish like the guy came into the club thinking it would be easy pay day.

SP has been in charge for many years now and is still making same mistakes and the club is not progressing because of him so he needs replacing.

What is a big club? this is open to debate those names you list why are they big clubs what have they done in the premier league era not much at all and Leeds/Forest have been outside the Prem for ages.

Had we not been promoted the club would of been in same state the previous owner left us in so SP got lucky because at this point was when there was a lot of money for going up and even in place if you did go down you would get something this was an issue previous owner ran into once you was outside Prem you are screwed there was no fancy tv deals or big bonus for be relegated.

I really think you are in fantasy world at times Painter.

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What people forget is that the club have made a call to improve the stadium (which I completely agree with) but don’t seem to recognise the financial implications this has on things like transfers. We simply can’t go spending £30 million on players for the foreseeable future because our money is being injected into the new stand/improvements.

Arsenal had a similar issue when the bought a new stadium and had to be savvy with transfers and look at Spurs in the latest transfer window not buying anyone!

It’s going to have to be clever deals, free transfers and cheaper signings I’m afraid folks.

Positively, I think Loftus-Cheek will come back on loan AND Wickham returning will be an addition we didn’t have last season.

I think Roy's demeanour may also have a lot to do with being asked the same questions about Zaha each week. It must make for a really soul draining experience.

With regard to Parish, for me it comes down to the question of whether Parish is playing tight with the purse strings because of FFP, or because the club don't want to spend money. If it's the former then I don't really see what people expect from him as you only have to look at QPR to see what happens when you break the rules [Link]

Of course if it is the latter then there are questions to be asked. Under Parish we made a profit on Zaha and signed the likes of Cabaye, Luka, PvA, Townsend, Sakho and Tomkins, and at the time (and for the first season) Bentenke seemed like a very good signing that most fans backed. I don't think there is a club in the league that has not made expensive mistakes with transfers, some of whom were linked with us such as £30 million Slimani at Leicester, £27 million Tosun at Everton (who will no doubt score tomorrow now I've said that!) and Hugill at West Ham (£9 million?), for example.

The one big issue that I can see has been our failure to bring in a competent striker to challenge Bentenke. It would appear that Parish has failed to learn from our mistakes in this regard, but I have never heard anyone with an inside knowledge explain why this is? Is it poor scouting? Poor negotiators? Or are we just not an attractive proposition to the better class of player? In an era when even a fairly average Championship player can go for £10 million+ the risks are high. When we signed Sørloth Roy seemed very pleased so I'm not sure I go along with the narrative that it was just what we could afford. At the time Roy had this to say:

Adresseavisen asked Hodgson if he had talked with Norway's national team manager Lars Lagerbäck before retrieving Sørloth, something the Englishman confirmed.

"He was incredibly positive in every way. I also received a positive message from Per-Mathias Høgmo, who congratulated and thought we signed a very good player, says Hodgson to Adressa .

I'm with painter in supporting Parish despite his flaws and mistakes. He has overseen our longest period in the PL, purchased multi-million pound international players, secured Zaha long-term, brought in billionaire investors, begun renovating the ground and all this without risking the long-term financial future of the club and isn't Mike Ashley. Hopefully with AWB coming through and possibly the likes of Kirby to follow, we might also begin to see the fruits of more behind the scene work.