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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 20 Oct 18 11.49am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Signings since Hodgson joined the club :
Guaita Free, Cavalieri Free, Jach £2.6 Mill, Rakip Loan, Ayew Loan, Meyer Free, Kouyate £10 Mill, Sorloth £9 Mill up to £16 Mill.

I didnt realise we had paid this much for him. It seems an incredible amount for someone who in truth would have to fight for a place in a Championship team - and we sold Glenn Murray for £4.3?

 


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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 20 Oct 18 11.55am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

I didnt realise we had paid this much for him. It seems an incredible amount for someone who in truth would have to fight for a place in a Championship team - and we sold Glenn Murray for £4.3?

Dreadful bit of business,but then SP has the ability to sign strikers who would struggle to strike a match,let alone find the net!!

 

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Originally posted by kevlee

I didnt realise we had paid this much for him. It seems an incredible amount for someone who in truth would have to fight for a place in a Championship team

And to make matters worse we bought him from a club that had only recently bought him themselves for about four pence ha'penny

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 20 Oct 18 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

And to make matters worse we bought him from a club that had only recently bought him themselves for about four pence ha'penny

Just about sums up our transfer strategy.

Sell a match winning goal machine like Murray and replace him with duds.

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

And to make matters worse we bought him from a club that had only recently bought him themselves for about four pence ha'penny

I've just checked. Midtjylland bought him in June 2017 for about £450,000 and six months later sold him to us for about £9m

 

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Originally posted by Painter

It is no fantasy, that Parish has overseen the most successful period in the clubs history. You may not like it, but that is the reality.
The money for going up is the same for all clubs at any given period, so don't try and say the previous owner was disadvantaged, as the parachute payments were in place when we last went down.
You rant on about SP, but you need to get your facts straight.

But it is fantasy when we was relegated the payments for going down was in the region of only 2m now if you go down you get around 45m and for next few years extra tv money filtered down from Prem that is a massive difference that wasn't in place before (the club under SP in championship was in trouble and risk of going under again had we not been promoted)


Originally posted by taylors lovechild


I'm with painter in supporting Parish despite his flaws and mistakes. He has overseen our longest period in the PL, purchased multi-million pound international players, secured Zaha long-term, brought in billionaire investors, begun renovating the ground and all this without risking the long-term financial future of the club and isn't Mike Ashley. Hopefully with AWB coming through and possibly the likes of Kirby to follow, we might also begin to see the fruits of more behind the scene work.

He has purchased those players because of the mass amount of funds from tv money nothing to do with his own pocket.

Those billionaires you speak of was brought in to invest in the likes of stadium only it was a poor move even SP few times has said he would of done it different (whats the point having billionaires if they wont give you any money to spend on players they could give the club a big loan like other clubs have done)

The Zaha one can be debated as well word is United get 50% of future transfer fee that is awful business.

A lot of the work done on the ground had to be be done to meet regulations so it's not a case of the owners wanting to glam it up (the big stadium project has still not even been signed off yet so it may not even happen so you think of all the money wasted word was they had spent on that)

As another poster pointed out Mike Ashley has done a lot for Newcastle putting in mass amounts of money he has put in way more then are current owners.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort

The Zaha one can be debated as well word is United get 50% of future transfer fee that is awful business.

I've long been critical of Mr P's transfers but not the one that you have mentioned.

It was an excellent deal at the time which is what is important.

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort

He has purchased those players because of the mass amount of funds from tv money nothing to do with his own pocket.

Those billionaires you speak of was brought in to invest in the likes of stadium only it was a poor move even SP few times has said he would of done it different (whats the point having billionaires if they wont give you any money to spend on players they could give the club a big loan like other clubs have done)

The Zaha one can be debated as well word is United get 50% of future transfer fee that is awful business.

A lot of the work done on the ground had to be be done to meet regulations so it's not a case of the owners wanting to glam it up (the big stadium project has still not even been signed off yet so it may not even happen so you think of all the money wasted word was they had spent on that)

As another poster pointed out Mike Ashley has done a lot for Newcastle putting in mass amounts of money he has put in way more then are current owners.

You haven't said anything there that changes my opinion. I still think he's made mistakes, but ultimately I also still think at the present time he is the best man to be in charge.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 20 Oct 18 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort

But it is fantasy when we was relegated the payments for going down was in the region of only 2m now if you go down you get around 45m and for next few years extra tv money filtered down from Prem that is a massive difference that wasn't in place before (the club under SP in championship was in trouble and risk of going under again had we not been promoted)

You claims of fantasy are not backed up by facts, only your view. There is no evidence the club was in danger of going under, if we weren't promoted, unless you would like to provide it.
Of course the parachute payments are greater now, than when we last went down in 2005, so are the financial commitments in wages, its all relative.
SP isn't the fool you make him out to be, he is quite astute in his dealings. The previous Chairman failed due to the dogmatic principled way he ran the club, not because the parachute payment he received, it was the same as other clubs he went down with.

 

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Originally posted by Painter

Originally posted by grumpymort

But it is fantasy when we was relegated the payments for going down was in the region of only 2m now if you go down you get around 45m and for next few years extra tv money filtered down from Prem that is a massive difference that wasn't in place before (the club under SP in championship was in trouble and risk of going under again had we not been promoted)

You claims of fantasy are not backed up by facts, only your view. There is no evidence the club was in danger of going under, if we weren't promoted, unless you would like to provide it.
Of course the parachute payments are greater now, than when we last went down in 2005, so are the financial commitments in wages, its all relative.
SP isn't the fool you make him out to be, he is quite astute in his dealings. The previous Chairman failed due to the dogmatic principled way he ran the club, not because the parachute payment he received, it was the same as other clubs he went down with.


pull your head out of SP *** go and look at the books which shows this and SP even stated himself the club was losing a lot of money.

the former chairman failed because of the collapse of ondigital deal so clubs got no money they was promised so he had to resort to silly methods to get some and as i said before there was no fancy big pay outs you can claim the relative stuff all you want that is false look at the claimed big clubs it happened to now days because of the wealth shared even when dropping you have big chance of retaining lots of talent pushing to come back up back then you didn't

you really are in a bubble you dont have a clue thats it need to find ignore button for you

 


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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 21 Oct 18 1.32am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Originally posted by grumpymort

But it is fantasy when we was relegated the payments for going down was in the region of only 2m now if you go down you get around 45m and for next few years extra tv money filtered down from Prem that is a massive difference that wasn't in place before (the club under SP in championship was in trouble and risk of going under again had we not been promoted)

You claims of fantasy are not backed up by facts, only your view. There is no evidence the club was in danger of going under, if we weren't promoted, unless you would like to provide it.
Of course the parachute payments are greater now, than when we last went down in 2005, so are the financial commitments in wages, its all relative.
SP isn't the fool you make him out to be, he is quite astute in his dealings. The previous Chairman failed due to the dogmatic principled way he ran the club, not because the parachute payment he received, it was the same as other clubs he went down with.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion - painter, yours is just as valid, however, i disagree - reason why, i'll try and keep it simple - we have had the most successful spell in the prem, but only on paper - it's through luck, changing things mid season, panic and short term buys and 3 teams being worse than us.
We got to the FA cup final, but that could have happened to any club - it's an anomaly.
Every year has been a struggle - so whilst on paper it looks rosy, the reality isn't. It's been a gamble.
Parish isn't prepared to break the bank on one occassion to stabilise the long term future, citing FFP, hiding behind it almost.
It's 'almost' as if Parish wants the club relegated, an excuse to sell off all the assets, start fresh and still get the millions of pounds from parachute payments.
And for those asking who should we have run us - i believe someone that uses their head, over their heart (or at least making it look that way) for when making big choices.

 


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Originally posted by Vaibow

Everyone is entitled to their opinion - painter, yours is just as valid, however, i disagree - reason why, i'll try and keep it simple - we have had the most successful spell in the prem, but only on paper - it's through luck, changing things mid season, panic and short term buys and 3 teams being worse than us.
We got to the FA cup final, but that could have happened to any club - it's an anomaly.
Every year has been a struggle - so whilst on paper it looks rosy, the reality isn't. It's been a gamble.
Parish isn't prepared to break the bank on one occassion to stabilise the long term future, citing FFP, hiding behind it almost.
It's 'almost' as if Parish wants the club relegated, an excuse to sell off all the assets, start fresh and still get the millions of pounds from parachute payments.
And for those asking who should we have run us - i believe someone that uses their head, over their heart (or at least making it look that way) for when making big choices.

Finishes in the Premier League:

11th
10th
15th
14th
11th

So at our worst there were five worse teams, on average we finish around 12th, which is pretty comfortable. We've won away at Anfield twice, Stamford Bridge twice, we've beaten quality Spurs and City sides.

Not prepared to break the bank, apart from when a small club from South London signed players like Sakho and Benteke or paid the wages required to keep Wilf and sign Cabaye and Meyer.

Not too mention the cost of signing Van Aanholt, Schlupp, Townsend, Sørloth, Tomkins, Luka and even Jimmy Mac. None of them were particularly cheap.

How is spending more money using his head rather than his heart anyway? I'd say a better example is being able to know when he's made a mistake, like moving on from FdB.

 


Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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