I've never experienced as much division with the palace fans as i do now. At school, you found a palace fan amongst the chelsea, utd's etc and you were automatically mates.
You go over the park and some kid is in the palace shirt, you didn't give him grief from a slide tackle.
You go out on the lash, a palace tattoo, scarf, pin badge and it was a 'heyyyyyyyy'.
Go about your daily business and see red and blue, it's a unifying nod.

Now, you see a young kid in black to complement his palace shirt, you think 'wannabe HF t***'.... relating to that, there are two types of people - Pro HF, pro block E. When it comes to parish, it's either his lover or hater.

Our fan base has been diluted 100% - we used to worry about what the new shirt looked like and who the sponsor was - that's literally all we cared about. Now it's 'what will the new stand look like - will you follow my blog - sign my petition - hey PVA, retweet me'.

Anyways, you get the point.

I do blame parish for a lot of this - Parish does this job to be liked, he won't make the tough calls.

This summer should have been a painful cull, expensive to replace but wouldn't have hurt the pocket in jan, next summer at the least. Spend 50 mil now and watch it gel for two years, or spend 17 mil every 6 months course correcting.

This was once a quality forum....

I think that you are confusing forum life with real life. There are probably 22,000 Palace fans at every home game whilst there are a couple of hundred regulars on HOL and a few more than that on the BBS so there are still 21,000 that aren't into forums and probably don't give a monkeys about the HF or Block E

We are paying the price for spending over £100 Mill on 6 players (This includes add-ons)in recent seasons, players like Benteke,Sakho, Milivojevic,Schlupp,PVA and Sorloth.Without add-ons the figure is around £90 Mill.
And of course this doesn't include the wages.
This would explain some of the Free and Loan transfers during Hodgson's time.

Cabaye was shipped off so his salary could be wiped off the books, same with Sako, Schlupp is a waste of wages but was part of Sam's plans to keep us up, 3 out of 4 were essential signings (Luka, PVA and Mama) - and you can't just 'cull' players who are on a long term contract,, like Mutch. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, most of us have agreed with everything SP has done at the time - appointments of Pulis, Pardew, Big Sam, and the signings, inc Benteke, some of us were unsure about de Boer and Roy but one turned up trumps. We were doing brilliant last spring, it's a shame not to have kicked on but gone back to square one yet again, and I'd prefer us to be grooming talent more than marquee signings (and Doogie's ones for the future!), but some of the negativity here is real spoilt brat stuff, or people in ordinary careers throwing stones at the high achievers - which is a massive bore.

I know. I’ve been a heavy critic of Parish’s but this is fact rather than opinion. The situation n the summer was dissected and scrutinised heavily on the BBS and it was predicted even less might be spent. As it turned out we did and spent roughly what I thought we would.

This doesn’t excuse Parish because transfer policies and the longer term football management deserves criticism, and that’s exacerbated by management changes. It’s a vicious circle of mistakes followed by fire fighting and some of it starts with trying to get away with not covering a position(s) in August, and then inevitably spending more on them in January. The left back and Sorloth events are perfect examples.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (23 Oct 2018 11.02am)

COYP

I totally feel like this:

"and whats more worrying is i have ZERO enthusiasm for going to the arsenal game on sunday. ive never felt like this in the 20 years of supporting palace"

I'm usually optimistic about most things in life even in the dark days with Palace (e.g. Pardew losing streak etc) but currently this feels frustrating and demotivating and making me feel like f*ck it I'll stay home with the wife on Sunday.