It's not so much that we're struggling; it's that we've become boring (and in 56 years of following Palace I don't think I've ever felt that before). My wife and I actually left the Wolves game at half-time. It was partly that we were soaking wet and cold. But it was mainly that I realised after about 30 mins of watching the ball being played from Tomkins to Sakho to Van Aarnholt, back to Sakho, then to Hennessey who passes out to Wan Bissaka... that I was simply bored. Listened to the radio driving the 2 hours home and heard Wolves had scored - absolutely no surprise and no expectation that we might get one back.
The manager and chairman should take note of this thread - when fans start feeling apathetic (as against negative) the danger signals should be flashing.

It's ok comparing now to days in the lower league 30/40 years ago
But the club is a completely different animal.
We have rebranded as a successful club with shiney new ground on the way & massive wage bill.
All looks great on paper..
But is like a Porsche built on a beetle chassis.
Looks great but endless disappointment when try to compete.
Need

There is a particular type of whingeing that seems peculiar to this season - our footy lacks a cutting edge and it is disappointing that we haven't continued last season's progress but are back to our annual sh*te start before an early Houdini act takes us flatteringly into mid table - we are the new Coventry City, or we will be if we do exaclty the same for the next 28 seasons.

I’ve been a Palace fan for 150 years ..... during the war

Still better than being a plastic fan of a big club.

The day we lost the cup final all the Utd fans could do was dismiss the FA cup as not enough and wonder who the next manager would be.

Like Utd fans we’ve been spoilt a bit but in a different way. Promotion shouldn’t have come so fast as we might be paying a bit now for surviving season 1. From there it gathers momentum and supporters can bleat on about not spending, but there is a finite limit.

Not every signing works out. If they are crap they still cost money!

err, the Porsche was built on a Volkswagen chassis for many years.

Look, I get the analogy however there is no entitlement to be fighting for a top 6 or top 8 position in this league, or even to be in this league. We are a second tier side, simple as that and you can perm any 3 from 12/14 who might go down each year depending on who has a bad season out of that group.

Nothing has really changed in the last 20/30 years as far as I am concerned, as everyone just has more money. The top 6/top 8 still have proportionately more money than everyone else however. So all that has happened during those years is that the price of players has shot up in line with the increase in income. It is no more difficult or easier to buy a top player as a middling club now than it was in the past. Could we afford Trevor Francis when he went for £1m? No we couldn't, just like we can't afford Hazard, Messi, Ronaldo or any number of top players now.

We have certainly progressed as a club during that time however, although the real measure of that as far as I am concerned is:

1) whether we are solvent
2) how long we are in the top flight

On both of these measures we are having a rather successful spell so I for one am not going to complain.