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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 05 Nov 18 2.22pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

I think there are some people here being really harsh on a guy who's barely had any time on the pitch- of his first PL Season. We live in an age of Instant Gratitude, where people want results right away.

There used to be a time where only the cream of the crop could join a new league and perform instantly. Now we expect that as a matter of course.

FWIW, I thought he had a good Game yesterday. kept the ball well, and linked up really well with Wilf. I was a little surprised at his substitution - I would have preferred McA to come off, as we look better with Meyer on the pitch.

 


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View steven_t92's Profile steven_t92 Flag Orpington 05 Nov 18 3.54pm Send a Private Message to steven_t92 Add steven_t92 as a friend

It's not difficult to set our midfield up to Meyer's strengths but Roy is simply too stubborn to try something different. I fear he will be the next Steve Mandanda and walk out in the summer....

Kouyate - Luka
Townsend - Meyer - Zaha

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 05 Nov 18 4.08pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by steven_t92

It's not difficult to set our midfield up to Meyer's strengths but Roy is simply too stubborn to try something different. I fear he will be the next Steve Mandanda and walk out in the summer....

Kouyate - Luka
Townsend - Meyer - Zaha

This looks great in theory, but of course we have nobody capable of being an effective lone striker. Also, it's a very offensive formation unless we snap back into a 4-5-1 off the ball - and do we think we can rely on Wilf to stick to defending down the flank, or think that this would be an effective use of his talent?

That said, this would have been a formation worth trying even with a dud Ayew up front against ultra-defensive Newcastle at home.

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 05 Nov 18 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

When we very rarely sign a ball-playing midfielder it always ends up him being either played out of position or unable to fit in with the manager's style of play. Think Barry Bannan and Owen Garvan.

He must be given a chance.
He is the best we've had since Michael Hughes.

His problem is the lack of support from the defence where our captain seems the most culpable.

His ideal position would be to sit behind Zaha who is suffering from lack of support when he is being harried by up to 4 opposition players (like against Chelsea) At the moment only Meyer and Zaha seem capable of making a telling pass.
Zaha won't be of help until he gets support.

Basically we lack 'class'and should utilise what little we have.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 05 Nov 18 4.25pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

This looks great in theory, but of course we have nobody capable of being an effective lone striker. Also, it's a very offensive formation unless we snap back into a 4-5-1 off the ball - and do we think we can rely on Wilf to stick to defending down the flank, or think that this would be an effective use of his talent?

That said, this would have been a formation worth trying even with a dud Ayew up front against ultra-defensive Newcastle at home.

Kelly - Tomkins - Sakho
AWB - Luka - Kouyate - PVA
Meyer
Townsend - Zaha

Edited by CrazyBadger (05 Nov 2018 4.25pm)

 


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View kayjaybee's Profile kayjaybee Flag orpington 05 Nov 18 4.29pm Send a Private Message to kayjaybee Add kayjaybee as a friend

For me, after zaha he would be next on the teamsheet,put him just in front of Luka and kouyate in a roaming role, the guy is absolutely class but is not a defensive midfielder hopefully someone on the coaching staff will make it evident to Roy before he gets the hump and wants away.

 

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View Kant's Profile Kant Flag exeter 05 Nov 18 6.45pm Send a Private Message to Kant Add Kant as a friend

Too much criticism of Roy here. Meyer was started yesterday and was not especially impressive. His finishing was particularly poor. Given the limited tools at his disposal I think Roy is doing a decent job and if hed enjoyed the rub of the green wed now be in a more comfortable position. Its a shame that weve lost the momentum of last season but constantly slagging off Roys judgement is getting a little tiresome.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Nov 18 7.06pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Kant

Too much criticism of Roy here. Meyer was started yesterday and was not especially impressive. His finishing was particularly poor. Given the limited tools at his disposal I think Roy is doing a decent job and if hed enjoyed the rub of the green wed now be in a more comfortable position. Its a shame that weve lost the momentum of last season but constantly slagging off Roys judgement is getting a little tiresome.

You said it. Meyers first game, played on the left. Until Roy alters the rigid formation and tactics there will be frustrated fans. I was frustrated last season but he was delivering the points at an impressive rate. He may have benefited a lot with Cabaye and RLC compared to this season, but to just keep it the same without them, and then not bring the only creative player other than Wilf until only just now, Roy has to look at himself and what hes doing, as we are.

Meyer is not a defensive midfielder and Luka didnt defend on his own last season. So what do we play? 4-4-2, with Meyer on the bench, or a few minutes if hes lucky or a busy game played out of position on the left vs a top 4 team.

Roy is just delaying the inevitable. Get some more creativity with one of a couple of players able to provide any or were in serious trouble and Roy may have to go, however it happens.

Roy is a great chap but were just hoping for the bounce of the ball this way so far, and were not exactly blessed with clinical finishers. Twice we had players having to pass to nobody in the box because they had 3 defenders about to make them surrender the ball. PVA and Zaha in the first half. Who was playing centrally? Nobody creative.

We need goals. Wilf cannot do it on his own but the Arsenal cameo appearance showed what Meyer and Wilf can do. They both occupy and scare defenders. The rest do not.

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 05 Nov 18 7.23pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I hope Im proved wrong but I dont think it will work out for Meyer at Palace.
Its not that hes a bad player or that Roy is a bad manager.
Ive observed Roy over a long period and I dont think I can recall him using this type of player.
His prototype of a midfield player is Morrison at WBA, Murphy at Fulham and Mcarthur with us.
He tends to be very loyal to these consistent, steady players where you know what youre getting and who suit his conservative approach.
This has served him well over his career so its difficult to be too critical.
As others here have pointed out Meyer probably needs to play in a central midfield role with two holding players behind him.
This would enable to him to link the midfield with the forwards.
However, I cant recall Roy using this system.
He has tried to shoehorn Meyer into a narrow midfield role on the left but it was evident yesterday than, other the first ten minutes, he had no influence on the game and spent his time chasing shadows.
I cant see Roy starting him ahead of Luka, Mcarthur or Kouyate.

 

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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 05 Nov 18 7.56pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by Rogers Don

Played out of position out wide and totally ineffective. He has to play in the centre behind Sorloth with Zaha and Townsend out wide and two defensive players. I would prefer McArthur and Luca, although the latter needs to stop giving the ball away. Meyer should also take the free Kicks and corners instead of Luca.

Thats a front 2 to strike fear into the best defences in the land.

I seriously hope youre on the wind up.

 


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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 05 Nov 18 8.10pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Thought he started very brightly yesterday and played some neat passes in and around the box. He faded and his finishing wasn't great but that's to be expected of someone who has barely played in the league so far.

Let's also not forget the opposition on the day who could well win the league this season. I want to see him again in a similarly advanced position against weaker opposition where he will have a split second more on the ball and slightly larger gaps to pass into. Still think he is potentially class.

 


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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Moved Again.. Banstead now Darling... 05 Nov 18 8.59pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

I dont think people are turning against Meyer at all... I think some people, myself included just pointed out that Meyer looked out of his depth yesterday and faded quite badly after a very good first 15-20 minutes.

I'm not sure if the OP is Meyers mum or another family member but he takes it very personally if people criticise Meyer and totally over reacted and said I was 'picking' on Meyer yesterday when I raised this point.

Nobody... no matter how good they are is immune from criticism.. it's not picking on someone or turning against them it's just simply saying what you felt of there performance.

Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (05 Nov 2018 9.13pm)

 


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