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Badger11 Beckenham 12 Nov 18 2.00pm
Originally posted by jeeagles He'd be stood isolated on the half way line when we defend corners. I may be wrong (just ask the lefties on Hol) but I thought Benteke was one of our better defenders at corners. One more point
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Beckenham 12 Nov 18 2.00pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

He'd be stood isolated on the half way line when we defend corners.

I may be wrong (just ask the lefties on Hol) but I thought Benteke was one of our better defenders at corners.

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Stuk Top half 12 Nov 18 2.07pm
Originally posted by the despotic banana That's not as bad as I feared, but I was fully expecting someone to inform me that we last scored from a set piece (not including penalties) in 2017. That is a depressing stat, anyway - and a worrying one. Almost as depressing as our defending from set pieces of late. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 12 Nov 18 2.07pm

Originally posted by the despotic banana

That's not as bad as I feared, but I was fully expecting someone to inform me that we last scored from a set piece (not including penalties) in 2017.

That is a depressing stat, anyway - and a worrying one.

Almost as depressing as our defending from set pieces of late.

Optimistic as ever

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 12 Nov 18 2.24pm
At lease know what Puncheon has been up to. He has enabled Luka to master the Puncheon "floatie".
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Bexley Kent 12 Nov 18 2.24pm

At lease know what Puncheon has been up to. He has enabled Luka to master the Puncheon "floatie".

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the despotic banana Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 12 Nov 18 2.31pm
Originally posted by Stuk Almost as depressing as our defending from set pieces of late. And as bad as our defending of set pieces has been, somehow I feel we are just as likely to concede from a counter attack when we are taking a corner as we are when we are defending one. Ask me about Ronald de Boer.
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Originally posted by Stuk

Almost as depressing as our defending from set pieces of late.

And as bad as our defending of set pieces has been, somehow I feel we are just as likely to concede from a counter attack when we are taking a corner as we are when we are defending one.

Ask me about Ronald de Boer.

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Stuk Top half 12 Nov 18 2.47pm
Originally posted by the despotic banana And as bad as our defending of set pieces has been, somehow I feel we are just as likely to concede from a counter attack when we are taking a corner as we are when we are defending one. It seems more likely than scoring from it that's for sure. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 12 Nov 18 2.47pm

Originally posted by the despotic banana

And as bad as our defending of set pieces has been, somehow I feel we are just as likely to concede from a counter attack when we are taking a corner as we are when we are defending one.

It seems more likely than scoring from it that's for sure.

Optimistic as ever

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Lakeview Lincoln 12 Nov 18 4.33pm
My local side, Lincoln City, have two brothers managing the club. One over sees free kicks. It's widely accepted, they invented the "bus queue" corner where attackers form a line-stopping defenders from accessing & pulling shirts etc. Nicky Cowley also looks at other sports, such as hockey, to spot interesting and different corner routines. I'd hope someone at our club has the job of spotting and then applying effective set pieces from all divisions and other sports. Our recent limitations suggest we don't Defensively, was the loss of the former coach early this season an issue do we think? It seems a long time since Dann was a regular source of goals from corners and defending them well seems a thing of the past.
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Lincoln 12 Nov 18 4.33pm

My local side, Lincoln City, have two brothers managing the club. One over sees free kicks. It's widely accepted, they invented the "bus queue" corner where attackers form a line-stopping defenders from accessing & pulling shirts etc. Nicky Cowley also looks at other sports, such as hockey, to spot interesting and different corner routines. I'd hope someone at our club has the job of spotting and then applying effective set pieces from all divisions and other sports. Our recent limitations suggest we don't
Defensively, was the loss of the former coach early this season an issue do we think? It seems a long time since Dann was a regular source of goals from corners and defending them well seems a thing of the past.

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Pierre Purley 12 Nov 18 5.41pm
Palace haven't been really well organised offensively or dangerous at any set pieces since Tony Pulis left. Defensively we usually manage to clear the first ball but never attack it that well on our own set pieces. Quite often the delivery is poor however we do have the required height in Sakho, Tomkins and Kouyate. We should have at least 3-4 options of proven set plays that work! Not one (the floated far post ball to Tomkins to head back across to nobody!)
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Purley 12 Nov 18 5.41pm

Palace haven't been really well organised offensively or dangerous at any set pieces since Tony Pulis left.
Defensively we usually manage to clear the first ball but never attack it that well on our own set pieces.
Quite often the delivery is poor however we do have the required height in Sakho, Tomkins and Kouyate.

We should have at least 3-4 options of proven set plays that work! Not one (the floated far post ball to Tomkins to head back across to nobody!)

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viveasheagle perth 13 Nov 18 4.28am
Pierre i think from my original post you have hit the nail on the head. We need at least 4 well rehearsed varied corners to at least keep the opposition guessing. Some responses have mentioned Pulis but i also remember the Coppell years and we scored a lot from near post flick on's and attacking the ball at the near post. If we had this one in the locker or perhaps a short corner to Wilf in the box it will make us more of threat. Agree as well that the delivery is lacking and i personally favour the whipped in cross rather than to just float it up.
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perth 13 Nov 18 4.28am

Pierre i think from my original post you have hit the nail on the head. We need at least 4 well rehearsed varied corners to at least keep the opposition guessing. Some responses have mentioned Pulis but i also remember the Coppell years and we scored a lot from near post flick on's and attacking the ball at the near post. If we had this one in the locker or perhaps a short corner to Wilf in the box it will make us more of threat. Agree as well that the delivery is lacking and i personally favour the whipped in cross rather than to just float it up.

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taylors lovechild 13 Nov 18 8.35am
Some of my observations are that Delaney was a beast at defending corners and would run through a wall to clear the ball, which we perhaps no longer have? Sorloth is very good at defending set pieces when positioned at the front post (I think it was against West Brom where pretty much every corner they had was cleared by him) but seems timid when attacking them. Ayew can't defend or attack corners/set-pieces. Tomkins' radar seems off this season and he keeps sending great opportunities wide. The one thing that I keep thinking is that we lack aggression. Kouyate has bought that back a bit, but we just seem to be too nice at times. We need to be more aggressive in attacking and defending balls into the box as otherwise I just feel this pattern is going to continue. Perhaps it is a by product of Roy's meticulous planning?
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Some of my observations are that Delaney was a beast at defending corners and would run through a wall to clear the ball, which we perhaps no longer have? Sorloth is very good at defending set pieces when positioned at the front post (I think it was against West Brom where pretty much every corner they had was cleared by him) but seems timid when attacking them. Ayew can't defend or attack corners/set-pieces. Tomkins' radar seems off this season and he keeps sending great opportunities wide.

The one thing that I keep thinking is that we lack aggression. Kouyate has bought that back a bit, but we just seem to be too nice at times. We need to be more aggressive in attacking and defending balls into the box as otherwise I just feel this pattern is going to continue. Perhaps it is a by product of Roy's meticulous planning?

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