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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I'm not sure AJ does beat those two. Not saying he won't either mind you.

As they say, styles make fights and often it depends whose style does/doesn't suit you.

One things for certain,there are three heavyweights now who sit on top of the pile. The second tier of heavyweights are also strong however these three are top of the tree and it would be great to have some kind of round robin where they all fight each other.

Whilst I think AJ is the best all rounder, I think Fury is the best boxer and wilder the most powerful.

Not sure AJ would have got up from one of those DW bombs last night.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (02 Dec 2018 11.32pm)

AJ got up of the deck and stopped Klichko,so if you think AJ gets knocked down and doesn't get up and win fights think again.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 03 Dec 18 9.19am

Originally posted by black eagle.

AJ got up of the deck and stopped Klichko,so if you think AJ gets knocked down and doesn't get up and win fights think again.

Totally agree, and I don't think Wilder is a bigger puncher than AJ, both those knockdowns were not clean hits, the first was on the side of his head and Fury lost balance, 2nd one he hit him clean but as he was going down.

AJ thumps you clean no-one is getting up

Look at Wilders face, Fury landed Alot of good punches, AJ would mash him up

 


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Wilder has the biggest knockout percentage in heavyweight champion history.

Joshua is a big puncher but no one serious within boxing puts any current heavyweight as having heavier hands than Wilder.

That said, I back Joshua to beat him.....but it's a shoot out and if Wilder connects properly it usually puts anyone to sleep.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 9.33am)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Wilder has the biggest knockout percentage in heavyweight champion history.

Joshua is a big puncher but no one serious within boxing puts any current heavyweight as having heavier hands than Wilder.

That said, I back Joshua to beat him.....but it's a shoot out and if Wilder connects properly it usually puts anyone to sleep.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 9.33am)

Agree, but Joshua isn’t looking for 1 big punch. He’s heavy handed, but throws more combinations than Wilder. Think Joshua would break both of them down over time, also don’t think he would start as slow as wilder either. But then I was 100% sure that Wilder would spark Fury.

 

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Originally posted by Casual

Agree, but Joshua isn’t looking for 1 big punch. He’s heavy handed, but throws more combinations than Wilder. Think Joshua would break both of them down over time, also don’t think he would start as slow as wilder either. But then I was 100% sure that Wilder would spark Fury.

Yep.....the heavyweight division in on fire at the moment.

Joshua is just better than Wilder in all areas other than a bit less in one.

Fury obviously has a great chin.....or to be more accurate great recovery.

He definitely deserves praise for a great performance.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 03 Dec 18 12.37pm

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For me AJ will want Wilder to unify the belts and then have a bout against Fury...is there a stadium big enough to hold that?? Maybe have it outside in Hyde Park or something so they can get 100k plus in?

For me AJ wins either way. i agree that Fury better boxer of the 3 and Wilder has the better one punch power...but we say in the fight on Sat night. If AJ hits Fury; he'll go down...Wilder wobbled with Fury's lack of power so he would as well.

AJ will also trouble Wilder with his movement as well as hitting him with a far harder Jab for most of the night.....

AJ all day for me against either

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Donating his entire purse to charity

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If that is true then I'm very impressed......I think that's a bit too generous perhaps but extremely impressive all the same.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Dec 2018 3.20pm)

 


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Originally posted by Lyons550

For me AJ will want Wilder to unify the belts and then have a bout against Fury...is there a stadium big enough to hold that?? Maybe have it outside in Hyde Park or something so they can get 100k plus in?

For me AJ wins either way. i agree that Fury better boxer of the 3 and Wilder has the better one punch power...but we say in the fight on Sat night. If AJ hits Fury; he'll go down...Wilder wobbled with Fury's lack of power so he would as well.

AJ will also trouble Wilder with his movement as well as hitting him with a far harder Jab for most of the night.....

AJ all day for me against either

It makes sense for Wilder to take the Joshua fight and avoid the Fury one.

He could lose both, yet Joshua comes with a minimum of 20 million....more likely 30 million when it's all counted.....That's nearly three times what he got for the Fury purse.

....or avoid both of them and take easier fights......But he's 33 now and he should really be looking for his biggest pay days now and not later.

 


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Wilder has realised in this one fight how badly he's been promoted up until now...fighting bum after bum.

On the other hand maybe it has been genius marketing by his team instead; lining up chicken fodder for him allowing them all to make enough money in the process (allbeit small fry in comparison with AJ) before he's found out against true quality (?)

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 04 Dec 18 10.57am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It makes sense for Wilder to take the Joshua fight and avoid the Fury one.

He could lose both, yet Joshua comes with a minimum of 20 million....more likely 30 million when it's all counted.....That's nearly three times what he got for the Fury purse.

....or avoid both of them and take easier fights......But he's 33 now and he should really be looking for his biggest pay days now and not later.

But Wilder can't call the shots and call out Joshua, he still has a huge question mark over him, unfinished business with Fury.

If I was AJ I would say you need to beat Fury to get a shot, how on earth can he demand a unification bout when he's just been out boxed by Fury?

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

But Wilder can't call the shots and call out Joshua, he still has a huge question mark over him, unfinished business with Fury.

If I was AJ I would say you need to beat Fury to get a shot, how on earth can he demand a unification bout when he's just been out boxed by Fury?


Well, ethically you're right of course.....but boxing...unfortunately......is mainly about money.

 


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