Nope. And I also think that the football thread is not the place to squabble Nick so adios.

The 'weight' given within society is arbitrary, changes in time, which proves the point I'm making. The culture you are currently living in made these judgements and those judgements will change with the generations again....deepen or lessen. My point is that the hierarchy you give them changes in time and isn't set.

People have killed themselves over all forms of abuse....You agree with marking out some forms as more important than others, I don't neccessily agree with that. What I would say matters is intensity. What is as true of your beliefs as it is for anyones.

These are matters entirely built upon perception....which is why they are dangerous when abused within society in terms of people's freedoms.....and I'm getting the idea within this thread that some on the left wish to create a 'protected' class of footballer based upon their skin colour.

This pseudo analysis based on titbits of information I've freely given on this site is becoming amusing.....Do you do horoscopes as well?

You don't know what you're talking about and I have little doubt that if I were black and had recounted something like this your attitude would be different.

How you think you can make these statements on my motivations without knowing me is a sign of your hubris.

You think I go down the 'genetics route' because of my childhood. I didn't even have these views ten years ago. Hell, I didn't even have them when I started on this website.

You were asked a question and after a reasonable first paragraph just went off the rails.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Dec 2018 9.51am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I agree with you on one level but Raheem Stirling has never been anywhere near any of that. He is rich and privileged. So this is about others being outraged on his behalf. It is also about identity politics and the suffocating propaganda of the liberal media.

That tends to diminish one's sympathy even where sympathy is deserved.

Guy working in the tax office believes in 'white privilege and superiority'.....Priceless, simply priceless.

As for historical persecution.....Do we get to pick? Why gets the right to treat people today based upon arbitrary views of the past?

Your great grandad did something bad to my great grandad.....Oh feel bad about it....real bad.....Bad bad Grandad.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Ah! back to debate.

If we are talking about the wider issue of public behaviour, then I totally agree that loutish, drunken, ignorant actions in public are totally unacceptable. Personally, I can't believe that anyone still racially abuses someone at a football match. That is just pathetic as much as anything.
Sadly, it is often the case that the kind of people who publically condemn yobbos and thugs then turn around and uphold them as some kind of hero if they happen to support a certain football team or have a reputation as being a bit hard and a leader of men.
I can think of examples of people who were total thugs in their younger days but are now suddenly respectable and liked.
Until we see these people for what they are and stop respecting them out of some weird macho code, we will always have w***ers.
Of course, there is the other type of loudmouth who has a s*** job, a nagging wife, no brains and just wants to take all their frustrations out on some footballer.

They just need therapy.

I understand that people become damaged by their life experiences and are therefore more sensitive to abuse.

I can tell you that my life growing up was hardly normal and sometimes it was tough but that gave me lots of extra skin to deflect adversity.

I am stronger for my life experiences.

In life, you either stand up to adversity or it does you in. Life is never fair.