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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 27 Dec 18 7.07pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

apparently once var comes in next season this should stop

 


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Seems very strange. The statement that there was contact didn't seem to matter for Niasse when he dived against us. In both cases there was contact but it was unrelated to the fall. Both clear dives but different punishments.

There's a whole bunch of rules which make absolute no sense. The non review when a yellow card is given is an absolute farce. Wilf being booked against Watford a few seasons ago for 'diving' when after the game Mariapa comes out and says he fouled him. Then this season the Capoue 'tackle' absolute joke. The no review on yellow cards often results in incorrect punishment and potential to build unfair repuatations.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Dec 18 8.53am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

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Seems very strange. The statement that there was contact didn't seem to matter for Niasse when he dived against us. In both cases there was contact but it was unrelated to the fall. Both clear dives but different punishments.

There's a whole bunch of rules which make absolute no sense. The non review when a yellow card is given is an absolute farce. Wilf being booked against Watford a few seasons ago for 'diving' when after the game Mariapa comes out and says he fouled him. Then this season the Capoue 'tackle' absolute joke. The no review on yellow cards often results in incorrect punishment and potential to build unfair repuatations.

Without giving this any thought as to the implications and after consuming copious amounts of alcohol last night in the company of family I am thinking that maybe consideration could be given to allow appeals for a yellow whereby 2 yellows have resulted in a sending-off.If there has been a clear and obvious error by the referee in awarding one or both yellows then it seems unfair that a team should suffer a player not being available for a match.

Maybe once my head has cleared I will consider that this suggestion is a load of old hogwash !

 

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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 28 Dec 18 9.03am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

apparently once var comes in next season this should stop

It won't help but it will improve.
The only thing I read from a ref viewpoint was that the touch on Salah was completely mindless. Salah was clean past him and the touch unnecessary.

The punishment did not fit this crime however and Salah dived in my opinion and I guess most others minds.

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View Superhorns3's Profile Superhorns3 Flag Harpdenden 28 Dec 18 8.20pm Send a Private Message to Superhorns3 Add Superhorns3 as a friend

Be interesting to see the reaction from Klopp and co if Liverpool give away a vital penalty for a foul like that in the important game against Man City next week...

Yes there was contact but Salah went down very easily - he doesn't always do that!

I think the fact the Newcastle player did try to grab him saved Salah as the ref would say there was intent from the defender to foul.

 

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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 29 Dec 18 10.00am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Originally posted by Superhorns3

Be interesting to see the reaction from Klopp and co if Liverpool give away a vital penalty for a foul like that in the important game against Man City next week...

Yes there was contact but Salah went down very easily - he doesn't always do that!

I think the fact the Newcastle player did try to grab him saved Salah as the ref would say there was intent from the defender to foul.

Well he went down very easily in the game against us. He leapt off Sakho's foot like a salmon trying to get upstream, he also fell conveniently after losing control of the ball before AWB fouled him. He dives.

I was listening to the Guardian podcast and they actually said that it had really crept into defending too. Some of the worst dives are by the back 4. It is quite amusing to see them throwing themselves around the pitch.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 18 10.26am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

The 'Diving' debate invariably relates to incidents which occur in and sometimes on the edge of the penalty area with players accused of exaggerating the contact and going to ground far too easily.

In other areas of the pitch one witnesses players plummeting to the ground after minimal contact yet these players are not accused of any simulation and "Drew a foul" is the narrative.How many times do you see a player being challenged by a player behind him and with barely a hand being placed on him he goes to ground ?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 29 Dec 18 10.54am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Superhorns3

Be interesting to see the reaction from Klopp and co if Liverpool give away a vital penalty for a foul like that in the important game against Man City next week...

Yes there was contact but Salah went down very easily - he doesn't always do that!

I think the fact the Newcastle player did try to grab him saved Salah as the ref would say there was intent from the defender to foul.

No chance of the scousers conceding a dodgy penalty, this season is all set up for them to win the league.
I think Salah has done it on numerous occasions but being the media darling he gets way with it.
If that was a penalty there should be 20odd every game.
Happy New Year Superhorns3 (except on the 12th)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 29 Dec 18 10.56am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The 'Diving' debate invariably relates to incidents which occur in and sometimes on the edge of the penalty area with players accused of exaggerating the contact and going to ground far too easily.

In other areas of the pitch one witnesses players plummeting to the ground after minimal contact yet these players are not accused of any simulation and "Drew a foul" is the narrative.How many times do you see a player being challenged by a player behind him and with barely a hand being placed on him he goes to ground ?

They are by me!! Cant abide diving in any area of the pitch

 

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