Who’s at fault - Hodgson or the board?
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| steve1984 29 Dec 18 1.04pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
So far we have very little tangible to show for our now sixth season in the PL. Except for our continued presence in it.
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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 29 Dec 18 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Except for our continued presence in it. Won’t be tangible if we’re relegated, and I think we know what we’re talking about. Foundations that mean we don’t have to spend record amounts and 9th highest wage bill to hover in about 17th to 19th in most seasons.
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| Midlands Eagle 29 Dec 18 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Bang on. I actually think that our transfers recently have improved. There are way too many on here who think that running a multi million pound business is easy. Does that include paying £8m for a centre forward that the selling club had bought just a few months earlier for £400,000 plus a Polish central defender that most think is lower division class plus the infamous Erdal Rakip who we had on loan and who never once set foot on the hallowed turf of Selhurst Park.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Dec 18 1.22pm |
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Until we’re staying out of relegation consistently without a wage bill of 9th in the league then we aren’t really achieving anything because anyone can be the 9th highest spenders and hover in 17th or lower. And because of doing that we couldn’t and haven’t improved the club other than those players here for a few years, a few inexperienced ex players on Parish’s lap and some Americans who seemingly aren’t putting much into the club, including funds to build the new stand seeing as Parish is proposing to sell long term season tickets to finance it. His words. I remember Jordan doing this to keep the club afloat and the spending on Paul Ifill and Nick Carle. Using working capital isn’t it, Midlands?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Dec 18 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
85% of our buys have been great! You are very glass half empty. A bit more depth would be nice but our quality has improved over the last 5 years. I am a happy realistic palace fan, sorry your not. You’ll notice what we’ve achieved and how far we’ve come if or when we’re relegated. After 2 seasons, or probably 1, you wouldn’t think we’d even been in the premier league. That should be Parish’s measure of how good a chairman he’s been long term and at the end of his reign, rather than announcing himself as the best chairman and owner we’ve ever had. Build a stand before trying to claim that.
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| bifffabazz Highworth, Wiltshire 29 Dec 18 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
Except for our continued presence in it.
Which promoted team has ever 'achieved' any kind of singular or instant success since the Prem started? It's a gravy train and the mere fact that the top teams continue to smash old records just goes to show what a closed shop it is. The rich just keep getting richer. Average 25,000+ crowds, never before known at Selhurst, some fun scalps of the big boys, international players, MOTD and Sky coverage as a given, relative credibility at work among our armchair United & Liverpool fans, a Cup Final, apparent solvency.... things could certainly be a lot worse. And it's not all down to luck.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Dec 18 2.15pm |
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Originally posted by bifffabazz
Which promoted team has ever 'achieved' any kind of singular or instant success since the Prem started? It's a gravy train and the mere fact that the top teams continue to smash old records just goes to show what a closed shop it is. The rich just keep getting richer. Average 25,000+ crowds, never before known at Selhurst, some fun scalps of the big boys, international players, MOTD and Sky coverage as a given, relative credibility at work among our armchair United & Liverpool fans, a Cup Final, apparent solvency.... things could certainly be a lot worse. And it's not all down to luck. We’re not talking about success, instant or otherwise. We’re talking about having something to show for it. Something to make and keep us competitive, again, like proper scouting, youth set up and transfer policies, because so far the only thing has been having the 9th highest wage bill with, ahem, 25,000 crowds and silence over this new stand. Hopefully we’re going to get it right but January is only a year back.
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| steve1984 29 Dec 18 3.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Won’t be tangible if we’re relegated, and I think we know what we’re talking about. I think there are only about 6 PL clubs that can be considered safe from the threat of relegation. Just out of curiosity which clubs have finished in the top 12 of the PL in say 4 of the last 5 seasons? Chelsea, Spuz, Arsenal, the 2 Manchester clubs, Liverpool and maybe Everton. Haven't the remaining 5 places gone to a whole load of different clubs? Edited by steve1984 (29 Dec 2018 3.41pm)
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| dannyboy1978 29 Dec 18 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You’ll notice what we’ve achieved and how far we’ve come if or when we’re relegated. After 2 seasons, or probably 1, you wouldn’t think we’d even been in the premier league. That should be Parish’s measure of how good a chairman he’s been long term and at the end of his reign, rather than announcing himself as the best chairman and owner we’ve ever had. Build a stand before trying to claim that. Who's desperate for a new stand? I'm not!
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| dannyboy1978 29 Dec 18 5.27pm |
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Only 9 teams have never been relegated from the prem, we have been in it about a quarter of it since it started. Not to shabby!!
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| est1905 29 Dec 18 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by OhSouthLondon!
I don’t think you can fault too many of the players efforts. Tomkins had a poor game but he usually gives 110%. The main problem as we all know is a lack of a striker. BUT we have known about this problem since the summer and yet we didn’t buy a goal scorer. We have absolutely nothing to aim at up top and time and time again it costs us. Is that Roy’s fault or the boards? Edited by Midlands Eagle (05 Dec 2018 7.51am) All Roy can do is identify the weaknesses in his team/squad and the players he feels will solve that problem. I imagine as a go between Freedman will compile a list of affordable targets that RH will approve/veto and then its up to the board to come up with the money and convince the player to come and his club to sell.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Dec 18 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Who's desperate for a new stand? I'm not! It’s the revenue and the competitiveness it brings that you should want because the current tin shed puts us at a disadvantage.
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