Who’s at fault - Hodgson or the board?
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 black eagle.  south croydon. 05 Dec 18 12.26pm |
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Someone on talksport said this morning that Hodgson is on the brink of the sack. Get beaten against wet spam and that could be it. If Roy can't motivate us for a game against our bitter rivals then questions need to be asked.
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jeeagles  05 Dec 18 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by iheartcpfc
Both. Parish is a f***ing cochroach and his complete lack of long term planning and failure to implement infrastructure to bring us into 2018 with Watford, Leicester, Bournemouth and the f***ing weed (who have overtaken us now, make no mistake) means we will always be scraping survival and never kicking in, relying on vanity signings and Wilf to save us with the usual firefighter manager he will end up falling out with when they realise how difficult he is. Still, he will be backed by his sycophants who place no blame at his door ever - after all its impossible to have a decent scouting setup or look abroad for a young progressive coach that isn't Frank de Boer. Oh wait, Hull found Marco Silva when they were bottom and Norwich found Daniel Farke in the Championship. Oops. Roy has completely ballsed this season up. His attachment to one system, failure to rotate even with our s***ty squad, poor game management, failure or find a solution to the goals problem, f***ing disaster that is our set pieces (sackable offence alone imo), conservative tactics away letting a bang average side get all over us from kick off have combined to make a s*** fest of a season. We are severely underperforming and the losses to what should be our mid table rivals are stacking up. I don't think he is fit for purpose now and if it wasn't for our inability to think outside the box he'd be gone now and replaced by someone in the Farke/Lampard/Silva mold. Won't happen, we'll keep plugging away with Croydon Roy until even Parish has had enough, bins him and gets Mark f***ing Hughes We are the sick man of the league and need urgent intervention In 2010, Leicester and Watford finished above us, Brighton had just opened a shiny new stadium and Bournemouth have been lucky with a fantastic manager. Plenty of clubs have fallen far behind us since then.
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Beanyboysmd  05 Dec 18 12.49pm |
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I honestly dont think Roy is in trouble. This isnt like the Pardew days where you think "Unless he goes we are dead". We still look fine but our squad is so thin that even our plan a isnt convincing... I have seen every suggestion for first 11 from you lot (Myself included)and none of us have suggested anything better with what we have. He is doing fine with what we have. If we had 2 stikers, we drop townsend and zaha into midfield, that means we drop 2 midfielders...Once we do that, we have some genuine options and variety...
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| Hrolf The Ganger 05 Dec 18 12.58pm |
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Originally posted by MonsterMunch
Sorry but for me you are just letting Hodgson off the hook here. He is the manager of the team. So manage the bloody team. Not do the same thing over and over again with the same results. Its his responsibility to find a solution with the tools he has available. He has not been given sufficient resources I get that, which is why he should be allowed January. But lets just say he does not receive said resources in January and we just continue in the same vein. What then? The manager is only as good as the players. What can you do with no striker?
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Crystal_Clear  Belfast 05 Dec 18 1.00pm |
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With exception of the Jan transfer window when PVA, Schlupp, Milo and Sakho (on loan) came in, we always seem to take the cheap option. The only transfer fees spent this summer was Kouyate. Ayew - cheap option You go back further during our PL stay :- Mandanda - free agent (hardly played) Even Townsend was more or less a swap with Dwight Gayle. Yes, there was Benteke and Sakho but they are exception. You have to look at some of the other sides and how much they spend, ie. West Ham, Bournemouth, Leicester even Southampton (through they have have bought and sold too much). If Parish wants to be a stable PL club then look at finances you need to invest. If not, then expect to be fighting relegation every season. And if you are fighting relegation every season, don't expect to attract good players or keep your best players. Another season of scappinf survival, expect Zaha to finally go, AWB to be poached by a better club, maybe Sakho to go as well to ensure his inclusion in the France squad etc. I'm sure the unexpected departures of Pulis and Alladyce were down to transfer funds. Edited by Crystal_Clear (05 Dec 2018 1.01pm)
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Ketteridge  Brighton 05 Dec 18 1.13pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
In 2010, Leicester and Watford finished above us, Brighton had just opened a shiny new stadium and Bournemouth have been lucky with a fantastic manager. Plenty of clubs have fallen far behind us since then. Good point, to add to that Watford owners have 40 years experience of owning clubs and grown links all over the world. Bournemouth and Brighton have run at massive loss to get where they are.
One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A |
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 05 Dec 18 1.15pm |
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Parish, Freedman, Hodgson & Parish again......
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| southnorwoodhill 05 Dec 18 1.18pm |
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The board can be seen by its record. Lack of future planning, short term managerial solutions, lack of real investment in the squad where it is absolutely required. "I didn't have high hopes" WTF! They are down to 10 men and you didn't have high hopes? Fact is Roy you are so stubbornly stuck in your rigid 4-4-2 mentality and have absolutely no Plan B, you have shown that you are tactically incapable of changing a game with substitutions and/or a different formation. Wilf and Andros are not centre forwards and yet you shoehorn them into your beloved 4-4-2. f***ing hopeless and you'll be gone by new year ta-ta!
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| cpj Kent 05 Dec 18 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by black eagle.
Someone on talksport said this morning that Hodgson is on the brink of the sack. Get beaten against wet spam and that could be it. If Roy can't motivate us for a game against our bitter rivals then questions need to be asked. ^ This - just like when England lost to Iceland. I'm sure he's a very nice bloke but I just cannot seen him taking us forward as a club. Lacks imagination and ability to change games. Why not at least have Kaikai on the bench rather than say Ayew - can't do worse trhan not score in 12 games. Six years into the Prem and we should be comfortably in the top half - as Bournemouth are doing. SP has to take a lot of blame for the turnover in managers and for the lack of investment in a striker that everyone knew we needed last summer.
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| Midlands Eagle 05 Dec 18 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by black eagle.
If Roy can't motivate us for a game against our bitter rivals then questions need to be asked. The Brighton, Palace rivalry is for the supporters and not the players most of whom probably couldn't care less with the exception of perhaps Zaha
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| Ketteridge Brighton 05 Dec 18 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by black eagle.
Someone on talksport said this morning that Hodgson is on the brink of the sack. Get beaten against wet spam and that could be it. If Roy can't motivate us for a game against our bitter rivals then questions need to be asked. It wasn't the motivation that was the problem it was the lack of a plan b, they were well organised and benefitted from our poor defending. If anything Tomkins was over hyped and his decision making effected.
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| Brinscall Eagle Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 05 Dec 18 1.26pm |
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I would suggest the team are not blameless , complacency comes to mind.
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