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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 06 Dec 18 10.53pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It happened....but people love a conspiracy.

I’m so glad we agree on this. ‘People’ are rabid for a conspiracy. Think about the complexity of what you’re proposing. Come on.

 


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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I’m so glad we agree on this. ‘People’ are rabid for a conspiracy. Think about the complexity of what you’re proposing. Come on.


Yep, occam's razor.....also when things like this come up I always remember the old Benjamin Franklin quote, 'three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead'.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Dec 18 5.53am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

They couldnt make a decent car in 69
How the hell did they make a space ship.
Blue peter!

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 07 Dec 18 6.30am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

They couldnt make a decent car in 69
How the hell did they make a space ship.
Blue peter!

Have to disagree ... this would surely get you to the moon and back!

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chateauferret Flag 07 Dec 18 9.07am

Apollo mission astronauts placed reflective equipment on the moon in order to allow precise measurements of its orbit. These objects are visible through a telescope.

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This fact renders all moon landing conspiracy theories bollocks.

 


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Originally posted by chateauferret

Apollo mission astronauts placed reflective equipment on the moon in order to allow precise measurements of its orbit. These objects are visible through a telescope.

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This fact renders all moon landing conspiracy theories bollocks.

I will give you another one, moon rocks.

Apparently the geology for these are unique (something to do with their age and composition which means they are not from earth) and any geologist worth his salt can tell that. These rocks were given to museums and scientific bodies all around the world funny that their people haven't noticed they are fakes? The CT people of course claim they are man made yet they cannot explain how NASA faked them.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Dec 18 3.38pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

It's a compelling idea with logical reasoning but most of the evidence for a fake landing does not hold up to scrutiny.

I can see the propaganda value of getting there before the Russians and that a plan to fake it might have been an option if the Russians looked like they might go, but the fact is that the Russian space effort was largely smoke and mirrors. They were nowhere near going to the Moon. The Americans might not have known that at the time of course but in any case, why spend billions of dollars on a space program if you planned to fake it?. It could only logically have been a fallback plan if they weren't ready. In that case, how does one explain the subsequent missions which had very little propaganda value?

The best evidence I have seen for the fake camp is a film of the Astronauts apparently faking the size of Earth through the capsule window and the supposed prompts from NASA as when to speak. I'd like to see that explained.

A much more interesting conspiracy is whether we stopped going to the moon of if we continued in secret and built bases on the dark side. That would explain a lot about not returning and the tales of Moon bases and space personnel that have been circulating.

And don't forget those aLiens.

 

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China looking to land stuff on the Dark side of the moon

Edited by Lyons550 (07 Dec 2018 9.08pm)

 


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chateauferret Flag 07 Dec 18 9.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's a compelling idea with logical reasoning but most of the evidence for a fake landing does not hold up to scrutiny.

I can see the propaganda value of getting there before the Russians and that a plan to fake it might have been an option if the Russians looked like they might go, but the fact is that the Russian space effort was largely smoke and mirrors. They were nowhere near going to the Moon. The Americans might not have known that at the time of course but in any case, why spend billions of dollars on a space program if you planned to fake it?. It could only logically have been a fallback plan if they weren't ready. In that case, how does one explain the subsequent missions which had very little propaganda value?

The best evidence I have seen for the fake camp is a film of the Astronauts apparently faking the size of Earth through the capsule window and the supposed prompts from NASA as when to speak. I'd like to see that explained.

A much more interesting conspiracy is whether we stopped going to the moon of if we continued in secret and built bases on the dark side. That would explain a lot about not returning and the tales of Moon bases and space personnel that have been circulating.

And don't forget those aLiens.

I think Occam's Razor deals with most of this. The Yamks when to the moon to score off the Russians and because they thought it might be strategically useful. When they got there they found it was pants so stopped bothering their arses as soon as the USSR jacked it in. The only other people to visit the moon were Wallace and Gromit.

 


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chateauferret Flag 07 Dec 18 9.10pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

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China looking to land stuff on the Dark side of the moon

Edited by Lyons550 (07 Dec 2018 9.08pm)

China couldn't land stuff in their own back gardens. Actually they were better at this stuff 4000 years ago than they are now.

 


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Originally posted by chateauferret

I think Occam's Razor deals with most of this. The Yamks when to the moon to score off the Russians and because they thought it might be strategically useful. When they got there they found it was pants so stopped bothering their arses as soon as the USSR jacked it in. The only other people to visit the moon were Wallace and Gromit.

The obvious reason why we have not been back to the Moon is that it is very expensive and of little scientific value. The official line is that NASA budget was cut drastically after the Moon missions and even the Sky Lab was partly made from spare parts to save money.

One possible clue to the US military ambitions in space is that the Space Shuttle was originally designed to be a much sleeker more agile craft but ended up being like a flying brick to accommodate military insistence that it could carry large payloads.

What did they want to put in space?

Obviously, a financial incentive like mining minerals might make it viable for commercial interests to return to the Moon but technology has to make it practical and economic.

Of course, travelling to Mars would be easier and cheaper from the Moon providing that the facilities were in place already.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Dec 18 10.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's a compelling idea with logical reasoning but most of the evidence for a fake landing does not hold up to scrutiny.

I can see the propaganda value of getting there before the Russians and that a plan to fake it might have been an option if the Russians looked like they might go, but the fact is that the Russian space effort was largely smoke and mirrors. They were nowhere near going to the Moon. The Americans might not have known that at the time of course but in any case, why spend billions of dollars on a space program if you planned to fake it?. It could only logically have been a fallback plan if they weren't ready. In that case, how does one explain the subsequent missions which had very little propaganda value?

The best evidence I have seen for the fake camp is a film of the Astronauts apparently faking the size of Earth through the capsule window and the supposed prompts from NASA as when to speak. I'd like to see that explained.

A much more interesting conspiracy is whether we stopped going to the moon of if we continued in secret and built bases on the dark side. That would explain a lot about not returning and the tales of Moon bases and space personnel that have been circulating.

And don't forget those aLiens.

I didn't find anything in the 'faking' of the size of the earth....and the 'supposed' prompts. What I do find with a lot of moon conspiracy theorists is a kind of....'look at that, this means, 'insert claim' when the reality is that there are perfectly rational explanations.

The reasons the US didn't go back are to be found in the reasons they went in the first place......It was about beating the Russians.....once that was achieved and they had addressed the 'Kennedy' piece of history....they saw little financial sense in continually going there.

Once Nasa had exhausted excuses for the extra expenditure the usual, 'we can spend money better elsewhere' crew take over and then it's bye bye trips to the moon.

The reality that building bases on the moon was always going to be profitable long term in several senses doesn't really resonate in democracies where everything is about the next five years....not the long term.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2018 10.46pm)

 


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