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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Dec 18 11.11pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I didn't find anything in the 'faking' of the size of the earth....and the 'supposed' prompts. What I do find with a lot of moon conspiracy theorists is a kind of....'look at that, this means, 'insert claim' when the reality is that there are perfectly rational explanations.

The reasons the US didn't go back are to be found in the reasons they went in the first place......It was about beating the Russians.....once that was achieved and they had addressed the 'Kennedy' piece of history....they saw little financial sense in continually going there.

Once Nasa had exhausted excuses for the extra expenditure the usual, 'we can spend money better elsewhere' crew take over and then it's bye bye trips to the moon.

The reality that building bases on the moon was always going to be profitable long term in several senses doesn't really resonate in democracies where everything is about the next five years....not the long term.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Dec 2018 10.46pm)

These are all perfectly reasonable arguments. Just not as exciting as a juicy space conspiracy.

I'm always prepared to entertain conspiracy theories but without evidence, that is all they are.

The only position I object to is one that dismisses potentially valid evidence without investigation just to toe the official line.
I feel that some people are inclined to disbelieve everything that conflicts with the accepted version and equally, there are those that will believe anything for the most tenuous of reasons.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Dec 18 11.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

These are all perfectly reasonable arguments. Just not as exciting as a juicy space conspiracy.

I'm always prepared to entertain conspiracy theories but without evidence, that is all they are.

The only position I object to is one that dismisses potentially valid evidence without investigation just to toe the official line.
I feel that some people are inclined to disbelieve everything that conflicts with the accepted version and equally, there are those that will believe anything for the most tenuous of reasons.


Yep, nothing wrong with looking at alternative explanations for things.

It's all part of the push and pull of inquiry. As long as people don't get too precious about stuff (which inevitably a small percent will) then it's all well and good.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 09 Dec 18 1.11pm

I think too many people have been watching dodgy youtube commentators.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Dec 18 7.46pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

There were over 500000 people involved in the space programme, even if only 5% of those were in the position to know everything, over the last 50 years a few would have needed money and would have sold their secrets to the press...that never happened! The Russians and the Chinese were monitoring the whole thing, every landing, and would have jumped at the chance to discredit the Americans, dont you think? The Americans absolutely landed on the moon, Next you'll be telling us that the earth is flat!!

But who is to say that they were all duped as well.
It only needed 10 or so to get all the others beleiving they were looking at the real thing.
Have you watched that movie capricorn one.
Its basically how you would fake it.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Dec 18 9.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

But who is to say that they were all duped as well.
It only needed 10 or so to get all the others beleiving they were looking at the real thing.
Have you watched that movie capricorn one.
Its basically how you would fake it.

It was Gore Vidal who watching the moon landings made the off hand comment that it looked like a movie studio. This was picked up by amongst other the author of Capricorn One and thus the conspiracy stories started.

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 15 Dec 18 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Bekken


Question is why we’ve never been back?

Now spending millions and millions on going to the red planet when we still don’t know how the moon realistically got to where it is and how it correlates so perfectly with events such as Eclipses etc.

Still so much to learn seemingly no interest in going back.

Going back will not gain us any new information, so what's the point, getting to Mars will but this all costs massive huge amounts so that's why we don't bother with the moon.
They believe that a very large object hit the earth about 4.45 billion years ago and from the dust created the moon was gravitated together, every day the moon moves a tiny bit further away from us but it takes many years to register it, we are just lucky to be here now and to see these Eclipses, someone has to be here ..lol

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 15 Dec 18 6.33pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

It was Gore Vidal who watching the moon landings made the off hand comment that it looked like a movie studio. This was picked up by amongst other the author of Capricorn One and thus the conspiracy stories started.

It's how we understand and learn, if we didn't question anything we'd be the same as sheep.

Baa.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 15 Dec 18 6.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Going back will not gain us any new information, so what's the point, getting to Mars will but this all costs massive huge amounts so that's why we don't bother with the moon.
They believe that a very large object hit the earth about 4.45 billion years ago and from the dust created the moon was gravitated together, every day the moon moves a tiny bit further away from us but it takes many years to register it, we are just lucky to be here now and to see these Eclipses, someone has to be here ..lol


We need to get off this planet and spread humanity around the solar system and eventually further to ensure its survival.

The moon is by far the closest and hence technologically most possible to do.....that's not saying that it wouldn't still be very difficult and risky. There are also certain minerals there that might be useful in the future.

It will get done eventually.....or it won't.....and while the moon will continue to inch away from us that will eventually stop.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2018 9.42pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 15 Dec 18 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

It's how we understand and learn, if we didn't question anything we'd be the same as sheep.

Baa.

Sure....there's truth to that.....but then again, we could also apply that to the conspiracy theories themselves.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Dec 18 8.29pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Going back will not gain us any new information, so what's the point, getting to Mars will but this all costs massive huge amounts so that's why we don't bother with the moon.
They believe that a very large object hit the earth about 4.45 billion years ago and from the dust created the moon was gravitated together, every day the moon moves a tiny bit further away from us but it takes many years to register it, we are just lucky to be here now and to see these Eclipses, someone has to be here ..lol

I believe it was the Sumerians who claimed that the Earth was created as a result if a collision with another planet. They also said that there were ten planets. Scientists today suspect there might be one more unseen planet.

How did they Sumerians know this?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 15 Dec 18 9.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I believe it was the Sumerians who claimed that the Earth was created as a result if a collision with another planet. They also said that there were ten planets. Scientists today suspect there might be one more unseen planet.

How did they Sumerians know this?

Rolf Harris told them.

It's probably a case of a stopped clock being right twice a day, we highlight the correct times but ignore the much larger incorrect times....they no doubt also believed in a lot of weird stuff.

That Rolf Harris could send you wrong no end of times....I mean....He once convinced me that he had three legs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2018 9.40pm)

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Dec 18 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Rolf Harris told them.

It's probably a case of a stopped clock being right twice a day, we highlight the correct times but ignore the much larger incorrect times....they no doubt also believed in a lot of weird stuff.

That Rolf Harris could send you wrong no end of times....I mean....He once convinced me that he had three legs.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Dec 2018 9.40pm)

Unbeliever.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Dec 2018 10.13pm)

 

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