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palace chick South Croydon 09 Dec 18 9.46pm
Originally posted by Willo We started the season having only spent £10 Mill in pre-season and in my estimation with a worse squad than last season.We had Benteke whose dearth of goals and general performances have been well documented and as such we have been lacking in the striking department.I am not at all surprised that we are in our current position - I wasn't expecting a great deal better ! Agreed :-(
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South Croydon 09 Dec 18 9.46pm

Originally posted by Willo

We started the season having only spent £10 Mill in pre-season and in my estimation with a worse squad than last season.We had Benteke whose dearth of goals and general performances have been well documented and as such we have been lacking in the striking department.I am not at all surprised that we are in our current position - I wasn't expecting a great deal better !

Agreed :-(

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 09 Dec 18 10.46pm
Originally posted by Bangell The season so far has been an incomplete team limping through to January. We've put in some good performances here and there but this is pretty much the points total you'd expect from a team without a striker and very thin creative options. I've seen a lot of unproductive running around but nothing to convince me we'll ever go anywhere with the squad we have. Last summer, I had high hopes we'd invest in quality players to carry forward the momentum we ended last season on. But no ... we appear to have learnt nothing from previous seasons in the PL. Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by Bangell

The season so far has been an incomplete team limping through to January. We've put in some good performances here and there but this is pretty much the points total you'd expect from a team without a striker and very thin creative options.

I've seen a lot of unproductive running around but nothing to convince me we'll ever go anywhere with the squad we have. Last summer, I had high hopes we'd invest in quality players to carry forward the momentum we ended last season on. But no ... we appear to have learnt nothing from previous seasons in the PL.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 18 11.19pm
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham I've seen a lot of unproductive running around but nothing to convince me we'll ever go anywhere with the squad we have. Last summer, I had high hopes we'd invest in quality players to carry forward the momentum we ended last season on. But no ... we appear to have learnt nothing from previous seasons in the PL. Our net expenditure was £10 Mill. Compare this to some of the others in the PL: Brighton,net expenditure £54 Mill, Burnley, £30 Mill, Huddersfield £34 Mill, Southampton £45 Mill, Cardiff £28 Mill, Fulham around £95 Mill Newcastle's was only around £8 Mill. Edited by Willo (09 Dec 2018 11.23pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Dec 18 11.19pm

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

I've seen a lot of unproductive running around but nothing to convince me we'll ever go anywhere with the squad we have. Last summer, I had high hopes we'd invest in quality players to carry forward the momentum we ended last season on. But no ... we appear to have learnt nothing from previous seasons in the PL.

Our net expenditure was £10 Mill.
Compare this to some of the others in the PL:
Brighton,net expenditure £54 Mill, Burnley, £30 Mill, Huddersfield £34 Mill, Southampton £45 Mill, Cardiff £28 Mill, Fulham around £95 Mill
Newcastle's was only around £8 Mill.

Edited by Willo (09 Dec 2018 11.23pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Dec 18 12.01am
Originally posted by ASCPFC I think the season so far can pretty much be summed up with one word. Susanna? COYP
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Caterham 10 Dec 18 12.01am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I think the season so far can pretty much be summed up with one word.

Susanna?

COYP

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sprites Auckland 10 Dec 18 12.22am
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Lol. Literally. Benteke was abject for an entire season last year. Wickham hasn’t been fit for 2 years and may never fully come back. Sorloth is league one standard and couldn’t cut it in the Dutch top flight. Are those the 3? Ayew has turned out to be a poor, poor signing. He is also a number 10 or wide forward type, not a striker. Not buying a center forward was a massive error, and it was obvious before the benefit of hindsight. 1) Sure, doesn't mean he was automatically going to be bad again this season. We've all seen what he can do. They had every reason to believe he'd find some form again. 2) That's your opinion, firstly. But I'll accept that one...they took a punt and it doesn't look like it's going to work out. 3) Doctors had told them Wickham was due back this season. They had no way of knowing he was going to keep getting niggles. And just, Ayew hasn't been great. But again, 11 goals in a relegated team suggests he had something about him. Our owners can't predict the future.
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sprites

Auckland 10 Dec 18 12.22am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Lol. Literally.

Benteke was abject for an entire season last year.

Wickham hasn’t been fit for 2 years and may never fully come back.

Sorloth is league one standard and couldn’t cut it in the Dutch top flight.

Are those the 3?

Ayew has turned out to be a poor, poor signing. He is also a number 10 or wide forward type, not a striker.

Not buying a center forward was a massive error, and it was obvious before the benefit of hindsight.

1) Sure, doesn't mean he was automatically going to be bad again this season. We've all seen what he can do. They had every reason to believe he'd find some form again.

2) That's your opinion, firstly. But I'll accept that one...they took a punt and it doesn't look like it's going to work out.

3) Doctors had told them Wickham was due back this season. They had no way of knowing he was going to keep getting niggles.

And just, Ayew hasn't been great. But again, 11 goals in a relegated team suggests he had something about him.

Our owners can't predict the future.

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CPFC1965 Warrington 10 Dec 18 12.54am
True our owners can't predict the future but they seem incapable from learning from past mistakes.
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Warrington 10 Dec 18 12.54am

True our owners can't predict the future but they seem incapable from learning from past mistakes.

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sprites Auckland 10 Dec 18 1.59am
Originally posted by CPFC1965 True our owners can't predict the future but they seem incapable from learning from past mistakes. I'm not sure that's fair, either. Mistake - hiring a sexy young manager and change the style of football. Learning - hire a safe pair of hands in Roy. Mistake - try to scrape by with championship squad. Learning - splashing close to 30mil each on both Benteke and Sakho, plus supplementing them with other additions like Guita/Luka/Meyer etc. I really think people are being too hard on them.
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sprites

Auckland 10 Dec 18 1.59am

Originally posted by CPFC1965

True our owners can't predict the future but they seem incapable from learning from past mistakes.

I'm not sure that's fair, either.

Mistake - hiring a sexy young manager and change the style of football. Learning - hire a safe pair of hands in Roy.

Mistake - try to scrape by with championship squad. Learning - splashing close to 30mil each on both Benteke and Sakho, plus supplementing them with other additions like Guita/Luka/Meyer etc.

I really think people are being too hard on them.

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PatrickA London 10 Dec 18 6.36am
I suppose looking at the situation now the squad is not as good as last season and the new players have not contributed as hoped for. I was optimistic at the beginning of the season. Guita came with a great reputation, Kouyate has good Premier League experience, Ayew scored goals in a struggling team and Meyer was seen as one of the most promising young players in Germany. We also expected Dann and Wickham back by October and hoped Benteke couldn’t be as bad again this season. Looking now, the squad seems unbalanced with a lack of goalscorer and a lack of thrust going forward. And it has to be said the majority of players have under performed this season. The addition of players such as Moses or Antonio could help but I still don’t see where the goals are coming from.
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PatrickA

London 10 Dec 18 6.36am

I suppose looking at the situation now the squad is not as good as last season and the new players have not contributed as hoped for.
I was optimistic at the beginning of the season.
Guita came with a great reputation, Kouyate has good Premier League experience, Ayew scored goals in a struggling team and Meyer was seen as one of the most promising young players in Germany.
We also expected Dann and Wickham back by October and hoped Benteke couldn’t be as bad again this season.
Looking now, the squad seems unbalanced with a lack of goalscorer and a lack of thrust going forward.
And it has to be said the majority of players have under performed this season.
The addition of players such as Moses or Antonio could help but I still don’t see where the goals are coming from.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Dec 18 8.44am
Originally posted by PatrickA I suppose looking at the situation now the squad is not as good as last season and the new players have not contributed as hoped for. I was optimistic at the beginning of the season. Guita came with a great reputation, Kouyate has good Premier League experience, Ayew scored goals in a struggling team and Meyer was seen as one of the most promising young players in Germany. We also expected Dann and Wickham back by October and hoped Benteke couldn’t be as bad again this season. Looking now, the squad seems unbalanced with a lack of goalscorer and a lack of thrust going forward. And it has to be said the majority of players have under performed this season. The addition of players such as Moses or Antonio could help but I still don’t see where the goals are coming from. These are essentially wide players and we already have players in this area.What we lack are central strikers and a midfielder who is creative and pulls the strings.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Dec 18 8.44am

Originally posted by PatrickA

I suppose looking at the situation now the squad is not as good as last season and the new players have not contributed as hoped for.
I was optimistic at the beginning of the season.
Guita came with a great reputation, Kouyate has good Premier League experience, Ayew scored goals in a struggling team and Meyer was seen as one of the most promising young players in Germany.
We also expected Dann and Wickham back by October and hoped Benteke couldn’t be as bad again this season.
Looking now, the squad seems unbalanced with a lack of goalscorer and a lack of thrust going forward.
And it has to be said the majority of players have under performed this season.
The addition of players such as Moses or Antonio could help but I still don’t see where the goals are coming from.

These are essentially wide players and we already have players in this area.What we lack are central strikers and a midfielder who is creative and pulls the strings.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Dec 18 8.55am
Originally posted by Willo These are essentially wide players and we already have players in this area.What we lack are central strikers and a midfielder who is creative and pulls the strings. That’s because we do all our shopping at the breakers yard or in the bargain bin by the tills. It’s pot luck if they compliment or fit. No proper planning or scouting and a dof with no experience whatsoever. Oh and another ex player next to him advising him to sell Murray while we took on Patrick Bumfluff and then Adebayor 5 months later after not playing for however long. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 10 Dec 18 8.55am

Originally posted by Willo

These are essentially wide players and we already have players in this area.What we lack are central strikers and a midfielder who is creative and pulls the strings.

That’s because we do all our shopping at the breakers yard or in the bargain bin by the tills. It’s pot luck if they compliment or fit. No proper planning or scouting and a dof with no experience whatsoever. Oh and another ex player next to him advising him to sell Murray while we took on Patrick Bumfluff and then Adebayor 5 months later after not playing for however long.

COYP

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Maine Eagle USA 10 Dec 18 4.38pm
Originally posted by PatrickA I suppose looking at the situation now the squad is not as good as last season and the new players have not contributed as hoped for. I was optimistic at the beginning of the season. Guita came with a great reputation, Kouyate has good Premier League experience, Ayew scored goals in a struggling team and Meyer was seen as one of the most promising young players in Germany. We also expected Dann and Wickham back by October and hoped Benteke couldn’t be as bad again this season. Looking now, the squad seems unbalanced with a lack of goalscorer and a lack of thrust going forward. And it has to be said the majority of players have under performed this season. The addition of players such as Moses or Antonio could help but I still don’t see where the goals are coming from. Kouyate was a good signing. Luka was a good signing, Meyer was a good signing on a free. We are just fine when signing defenders, and midfielders (most of the time with a defensive outlook). We took a ridiculous amount of time to get a keeper in but we signed a good goalie. Our issue is, and always has been, attacking midfielders, forwards, wingers and strikers. Think of all the dross we have signed from Sanogo to Adebayor, Bamford to Remy, Doyle to Sorloth. So much cr&p. Hoping that Benteke would magically turn his career around was reckless at best, and idiotic at worst. He didnt just have a run of form last season where things didnt quite work out for him, it was the entire season. He was awful, he missed chance after chance after chance. So we sit back and look at things and bring in Sorloth, who failed in the Dutch top flight, and Ayew who is a number 10/winger type. Unbalanced is an understatement. We have a lot of workman like players and only Zaha with any flair. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.
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Maine Eagle

USA 10 Dec 18 4.38pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I suppose looking at the situation now the squad is not as good as last season and the new players have not contributed as hoped for.
I was optimistic at the beginning of the season.
Guita came with a great reputation, Kouyate has good Premier League experience, Ayew scored goals in a struggling team and Meyer was seen as one of the most promising young players in Germany.
We also expected Dann and Wickham back by October and hoped Benteke couldn’t be as bad again this season.
Looking now, the squad seems unbalanced with a lack of goalscorer and a lack of thrust going forward.
And it has to be said the majority of players have under performed this season.
The addition of players such as Moses or Antonio could help but I still don’t see where the goals are coming from.

Kouyate was a good signing. Luka was a good signing, Meyer was a good signing on a free.

We are just fine when signing defenders, and midfielders (most of the time with a defensive outlook). We took a ridiculous amount of time to get a keeper in but we signed a good goalie.

Our issue is, and always has been, attacking midfielders, forwards, wingers and strikers.

Think of all the dross we have signed from Sanogo to Adebayor, Bamford to Remy, Doyle to Sorloth. So much cr&p.

Hoping that Benteke would magically turn his career around was reckless at best, and idiotic at worst. He didnt just have a run of form last season where things didnt quite work out for him, it was the entire season. He was awful, he missed chance after chance after chance.

So we sit back and look at things and bring in Sorloth, who failed in the Dutch top flight, and Ayew who is a number 10/winger type.

Unbalanced is an understatement. We have a lot of workman like players and only Zaha with any flair.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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chris123 hove actually 10 Dec 18 5.10pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Susanna? It's her birthday today.
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hove actually 10 Dec 18 5.10pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Susanna?

It's her birthday today.

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