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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 31 Dec 18 8.29am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Prioritising the cup really worked out for Pardew didn't it!
We are not strong enough to guarantee survival year in year out to take one eye off the league. If we could manage say 3 or 4 years established as a top 10 team and at no stage during the season get anywhere near the relegation zone then maybe but right now? No way

It wasnít the cup that caused Pardew to destroy our squad. It was just Pardew himself. As soon as he lost players he didnít have a clue. At that time it was first Jimmy and wasnít it Bolasie straight after? Not only that but any long term big players just had to go in his eyes, odd and insecure man that he is.

 


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View Dean_CPFC's Profile Dean_CPFC Flag South london 31 Dec 18 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Dean_CPFC Add Dean_CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It wasnít the cup that caused Pardew to destroy our squad. It was just Pardew himself. As soon as he lost players he didnít have a clue.

Spot on.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 01 Jan 19 4.38am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Also, a good run in the cup can build confidence and translate into (obviously that didn't happen for us) the league, chance to blood younger/fringe players.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 01 Jan 19 7.50am Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I wholeheartedly endorse these sentiments.PL survival is the priority and without being disrespectful to Grimsby we really cannot be risking key players in a home game against League Two opposition.

Edited by Willo (28 Dec 2018 6.14pm)

Yeah, another season of dross and a late scramble for 11th. Then wildly over promote our 7th season in the top division.

We're getting relegated eventually, let's take a trophy with us. You can't put the occasional giant killing in a trophy cabinet!

All out for the cup and go down. Championship is a better division with quality away days anyway. Poke modern football.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 01 Jan 19 8.14pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Honestly, us being in the prem and moving out to canada at the same time was a stoke of luck in that i can watch 90% of the games, home or away.

However, i speak for myself, but i reckon a lot can relate - 70% of the season has been either frustration, heart break, anxiety and horrible to watch.

Pardew's first year was amazing - keeping us up and then top 6 at xmas, but after that, his time was a joke and our second season in the prem looked so promising, until Pulis walked. We haven't found our groove since.

Our aim should always be 30 points going into the new year. Currently leicester, wolves, watford, west ham and perhaps brighton are on course for that. Is it too much to ask that we be on that level?? Then, it gives us the breathing room to have some fun in the cup.

If we finished the season on 45 - 50 points each year and never really looked in danger of relegation and continually got to the last 8/4 of the cups, that would be awesome.

5-7 years later you then sit down and think - ok, what next.

 


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View Melbourne Eagle's Profile Melbourne Eagle Flag Melbourne 07 Jan 19 2.46am Send a Private Message to Melbourne Eagle Add Melbourne Eagle as a friend

Realistically the 2 cups are the only things we can win, so let's have a go.

We are good enough on our day to win it and a major cup win could help change our club's mentality (slight inferiority complex?) Cup days are dedicated Saturdays now so the extra load is manageable and for the next round at least, gives us a chance to give our bench warmers a run to keep match fit.

I'm all for it, as long as we can avoid dreaded replays.

A Tuesday night in Grimsby in January, for instance.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 07 Jan 19 2.16pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

I tend to agree the cup's are a bad distraction for a team that needs all its energy to stay in the division and we certainly do not want to risk injury to our few good players (look at the tackle by Fox on Townsend, at the weekend, we were lucky that did not break his leg). We have to concentrate on getting the 40 points or so that we need to stay in PL. Relegation would be a disaster for the club and its finances. As someone said earlier in the post we should be capable of getting 50 points without all this anxiety that we have to endue season on season!

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 07 Jan 19 2.32pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

Honestly, us being in the prem and moving out to canada at the same time was a stoke of luck in that i can watch 90% of the games, home or away.

However, i speak for myself, but i reckon a lot can relate - 70% of the season has been either frustration, heart break, anxiety and horrible to watch.

Pardew's first year was amazing - keeping us up and then top 6 at xmas, but after that, his time was a joke and our second season in the prem looked so promising, until Pulis walked. We haven't found our groove since.

Our aim should always be 30 points going into the new year. Currently leicester, wolves, watford, west ham and perhaps brighton are on course for that. Is it too much to ask that we be on that level?? Then, it gives us the breathing room to have some fun in the cup.

If we finished the season on 45 - 50 points each year and never really looked in danger of relegation and continually got to the last 8/4 of the cups, that would be awesome.

5-7 years later you then sit down and think - ok, what next.

This for me.

All logic states for a smaller club like ours concentrate on the league. But the fans don't like an early exit. The coffers don't like it. And the players hate it and it rocks confidence.

I have heard pundit after pundit saying a good cup run adds nothing to fatigue and provides a real buzz and drive to a squad who are all getting a game and sharing in the collective momentum.

On balance a good cup run has to be a good thing.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 07 Jan 19 3.02pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

This for me.

All logic states for a smaller club like ours concentrate on the league. But the fans don't like an early exit. The coffers don't like it. And the players hate it and it rocks confidence.

I have heard pundit after pundit saying a good cup run adds nothing to fatigue and provides a real buzz and drive to a squad who are all getting a game and sharing in the collective momentum.

On balance a good cup run has to be a good thing.

It did not work out on our last good cup run, we got to the final but did poorly in league from when the cup run started and its was our for in the first half of the season that kept us up that year!

 

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 07 Jan 19 3.12pm Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Yeah, another season of dross and a late scramble for 11th. Then wildly over promote our 7th season in the top division.

We're getting relegated eventually, let's take a trophy with us. You can't put the occasional giant killing in a trophy cabinet!

All out for the cup and go down. Championship is a better division with quality away days anyway. Poke modern football.

Don't really disagree in that I have no fear of the Championship -it can be great fun. But right now I'd buy another couple of seasons in the PL just to get the stand done and funded. It may not be a cup but it would be a great legacy of our time at the top.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 07 Jan 19 3.15pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

It did not work out on our last good cup run, we got to the final but did poorly in league from when the cup run started and its was our for in the first half of the season that kept us up that year!

Yeah that would be the logic. Thin resources stretched even thinner. One bad injury of a key players in a "pointless " 4th round tie...

However as others have said our circumstances were very different then. Different squad and coaching team horrible injuries incurred in training not the cup etc. Maybe lessons learned?

The cup still has value oversea and winning it for a club our size literally puts us on the map and boosts non Tv revenue.

Always a trade off but on balance...

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 07 Jan 19 3.21pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Omph

Don't really disagree in that I have no fear of the Championship -it can be great fun. But right now I'd buy another couple of seasons in the PL just to get the stand done and funded. It may not be a cup but it would be a great legacy of our time at the top.


Wasn't it supposed to be "funded" by ring-fenced monies from our US owners, or was that 'fake news'?

 


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