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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 28 Jan 19 7.55am Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Hopefully we can avoid Man. Utd, City or Chelsea. And even better if two of those were to draw each other.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 28 Jan 19 8.36am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

Hopefully we can avoid Man. Utd, City or Chelsea. And even better if two of those were to draw each other.

As n wales eagles has already posted, City v United gets my vote. Or vice versa.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Jan 19 9.05am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Don't want to be a jinx but we will obviously get Man City - televised match. Pep's redemption etc will be the angle and hype.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 28 Jan 19 9.19am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Obvs going for Bristol City away, except...

We absolutely NEVER win there. Another 4-1 humbling where Sako is our motm??

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 28 Jan 19 9.59am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Giving the way the draw is shaping up a lower league team at home would be ideal. However so long as we avoid the big three then we have a decent chance home or away. And if 2 of the 3 can draw each other with the other away to a remaining prem team that would be ideal &#61514;

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 28 Jan 19 10.02am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Championship or League 1 team at home please, while Utd and City are drawn together. Chelsea can have Watford.

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 28 Jan 19 10.12am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Millwall away would be good although I would prefer QPR, Portsmouth or Wimbledon away (although probably couldn't get a ticket).

I seem to remember when Millwall beat Leicester, their fans were more concerned with attacking Leicester fans than celebrating their victory.

 


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View uncleneal's Profile uncleneal Flag Croydon 28 Jan 19 10.16am Send a Private Message to uncleneal Add uncleneal as a friend

Utter scum who absolutely love their reputation.

I always said that if I won the lottery, I would buy them and then liquidate the club the next day.

 

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View fledgling's Profile fledgling Flag Beckenham 28 Jan 19 10.52am Send a Private Message to fledgling Add fledgling as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Scumbags. There is a social stigma attached to being a Millwall fan. Itís the sort of thing you wouldnít mention if going for a job interview. Loads of their saddoís revel in the hooligan culture of the club. All rather embarrassing, especially for those over 30 who havenít grown out of it.

As for drawing them away, Iíd prefer an easier fixture to be honest. Any away game against a Championship team would be tough.

Iíve been to New Den several times and never had any problems. Itís actually very safe if you go to South Bermondsey station as there is a caged tunnel from the train platform to the away entrance. Donít be put off out of fear for this fixture.

Agree with this. Been to all the away games in the last 15 years or so and never had a problem.

Repulsive fans all the same.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag 28 Jan 19 11.03am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by KAOS

Been a while since weíve played them and I miss our derbies and going away there. Some of my best mates are Millwall so itís a great meet up for us all and yes itís edgy but that adds to it. So hoping we get them at theirs in the draw.

But for a number of Palace fans itís a straight no because of the mid 90ís @ the New Den when all hell broke loose after beating them 1-4. And of course previous visits to the Old Den which were never pleasant - and thatís putting it mildly. So in light of all that and yesterdayís madness would you go or swerve it? Have you ever been or always swerved it? And reasons for doing so? Etc

#southLondonisours

Once had to escape from the away end at the old den,sitting in the back of an open back pick up truck, in the days when there was more Millwall in the away end than palace

Those were the days Kaos

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag India 28 Jan 19 12.20pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

Once had to escape from the away end at the old den,sitting in the back of an open back pick up truck, in the days when there was more Millwall in the away end than palace

Those were the days Kaos

Weren't they just mate!

Horrible place to go! Full of lunatics ...

Remember the one at ours circa 86/97 and they were in the AW terrace and all hell broke loose early in the 1st half? We started singing as were entitled to as was our home end and there were loads in with us ... we all got rushed, game was stopped, horses on the pitch etc. I ended up having it on my toes with my mate after the game and hiding in a supermarket in Thorton Heath after being chased by a right nasty mob . That evening a West Ham fan got stabbed to death in Embankment by Millwall fans who had been at Selhurst in the day. Found this online summing up what happened ... horrid affair and poor lad was just up town for the evening:

account of the prosecution's case against John Johnstone.

John Johnstone belonged to a large group of Millwall supporters who,
after attending an afternoon match against Crystal Palace, boarded the
train to Charing Cross in London. The journey is only ten minutes, but
during it Johnstone became violent. According to the prosecution,
Johnstone approached one of the ordinary, paying passengers and ripped
the newspaper that he was reading out of his hands. He then punched him
repeatedly in the face. A ticket collector intervened, and Johnstone
turned on him.

Word of the trouble reached the driver, who radioed on ahead to the
Transport Police at Charing Cross, and John Johnstone and his friends --
there were six in all -- were apprehended when they arrived. They were
not held for long, however, and were soon free to carry on with their
plans for the evening.

These plans were not ambitious. In fact, Johnstone and his friends never
ventured further than three hundred yards from the station where their
evening began. Their first stop was the McDonald's on the Strand. They
were there for a only few (sic) moments before Johnstone pulled out a
knife and threatened a skinhead who was eating a hamburger. When another
skinhead appeared, one of Johnstone's friends walked up to him and poked
him in the eye.

Johnstone and his friends made their way to Trafalgar Square, stopping
briefly at the Admiral Nelson Pub on Northumberland Avenue, where they
posed as doormen, charging people money to enter, threatening them if
they didn't pay. When they finally reached Trafalgar Square, there was
more trouble, occasioned by a man with a spider tattoo in the middle of
his forehead. Johnstone and his friends found a spider tattoo to be an
intolerable thing, and so they beat the man up.

They made their way back to Charing Cross Station, where one of
Johnstone's mates, Gary Greaves, hit a young man across the face -- a
stranger, standing on his own -- and knocked him down. Greaves then
kicked the man in the head, and the others joined in. A bus driver and
his wife, parked nearby, waiting to pick up passengers from a train
arriving later in the evening, witnessed the violence and felt compelled
to try to stop it. And, to an extent they succeeded -- the lads
abandoned the man on the ground -- but they then turned on the bus
driver and his wife, and both of them, man and woman, were badly beaten.

I don't know how long Johnstone and his friends remained at Charing
Cross. The next sighting was in the Underground station. The Charing
Cross Underground station is large and complex, a network of passageways
connecting the three tube stops at Trafalgar Square, Charing Cross, and
the Embankment. Near the steps of the Embankment they met up with Terry
Burns. Terry Burns was with friends, and they were panicky and
frightened, having run into the Underground to flee a fight that had
broken out at a Covent Garden pub. I infer from the prosecution's
depiction that the West End, on this Saturday night, was a menacing
place to be. There is no mention of the muhc larger group of Millwall
supporters from whom Johnstone and his friends were separated when they
arrived in London. It is likely that, if the larger group was not
involved in the fight that Terry Burns and his friends were fleeing
from, then it would have been in another fight not far from there. There
would have been many gangs of football supporters that night in the West
End.

As it turns out, Terry Burns was a West Ham supporter. Johnstone and his
friends had been looking for football supporters all evening, knowing
that they were about, and would have been frustrated at continuing to
meet up only with skinheads, men with nonconformist tattoos, strangers,
bus drivers, and lonely British Rail commuters. It must have been an
exciting thing finally to find some genuine football supporters. I am
sure, as well, that Johnstone detected the panic and fear that Terry
Burns felt -- it would have been apparent in his face; it would have
been a presence like a smell -- and Johnstone would have found this to
be exciting as well. The result was violence of an altogether different
order.

Johnstone and his friends charged into the strangers, stabbing one in
the neck and arm. Burns fled and ran out of the station and up into
Villiers Street. According to the prosecution, Johnstone then ran after
him, shouting, 'Kill the b******,' his friends not far behind. They
caught up with him in the street, and the group sprinted through Covent
Garden in pursuit. They were chanting 'Millwall' over and over again.
Terry Burns was unable to run fast enough -- the Millwall supporters
were directly behind him -- and he tried to escape through a side street
that turned out to be a dead end. The only detail we have is of a
bicycle -- Terry Burns picked it up to defend himself -- but I imagine
the bowel-seizing terror that Burns must have felt on realizing that he
was cornered. I imagine him casting round for a way out -- the door
bells, the wall -- before he picked up the nearest thing to hand, this
unmanageable shield of spokes and tubes, to fend off what he knew would
come pounding down the pavement in a moment's time.

Terry Burns died. He was stabbed six times. Each stabbing punctured the
heart.

Terry Burns was not killed by a crowd; he was killed by a gang; but the
distinction between crowd and gang violence is probably not meaningful
in this case: it was only by chance that John Johnstone and his maes
were separated form the crowd of Millwall supporters. The killing,
however, wasn't in itself of interest. It was the quality of the evening
-- the desultory episodic nature of the violence and the sense of
boredom that characterized it: this was violence of the most extreme
kind, because there was nothing else to do."

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 28 Jan 19 12.49pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Yeah I've been there, both to watch palace and to see a Millwall game with a friend who supports them. Wouldn't go if we got them in the cup, as I take my young son these days, and I wouldn't even take him to selhurst if we played them. Shame really. I met Neil Harris on a coaching course and he was a lovely guy, they have a lot of people who don't deserve to be linked with the nutters, but they just can't shake them.

Interesting that so many on here want our team to beat Millwall in order to put the violent racist nutters who follow them in their place. I've never seen the connection myself, and if your the type to slash a guys face in a public brawl then I doubt the football result is your priority.

 

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