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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 19 10.57am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


You say there is no point in engaging and then you write this condescending waffle.

Ok just go and form your forum, it sounds really exciting...bye bye. You won't though will you.....Instead you'll just waffle and spend your time occasionally displaying your self perceived moral superiority to others with posts like this.

Personally I don't care what you think and even less what you do. If you don't like Hol, nothing is keeping you here.


Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2019 1.26am)

I wasn't though engaging with the attitudes on display in the other threads and nor will I. I was commenting in this one on the obsession with racism.

I do care about the rising level of open racism in society but recognise that it's pointless trying to debate it here, as your response so aptly confirms. There are more effective ways of combating this trend than attempting a discourse with brick walls.

I do like Hol and get a lot of information here but am ashamed to read the political views of the far right cabal who populate this section.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 19 11.08am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Great post and agree every word, you'll probably get responses telling you to go somewhere else but I suppose your points about ignorance responded with more ignorance reinforces your point

I do wonder though if actually it's more of an internet phenomenon, people seem to be outraged and emboldened but from the relative safety and anonymity of their PC. They sing the praises of characters like Tommy Robinson but wouldn't dare do so in public in or attend a rally. Spending your life typing on football message boards is hardly Standing up for what you believe

Thanks. Have you read the responses which are just as you predicted?

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 21 Feb 19 11.15am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wasn't though engaging with the attitudes on display in the other threads and nor will I. I was commenting in this one on the obsession with racism.

I do care about the rising level of open racism in society but recognise that it's pointless trying to debate it here, as your response so aptly confirms. There are more effective ways of combating this trend than attempting a discourse with brick walls.

I do like Hol and get a lot of information here but am ashamed to read the political views of the far right cabal who populate this section.

Indeed and would the 'far right cabal' like to meet the Palace Football team to explain their views in person?

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 21 Feb 19 11.16am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Sadly the world has moved on. In earlier days children were taught about dangers but now those dangers seem to have become victims.

Little Red Riding Hood found that a loving action - going to see Granny - could contain danger to her. She got to Granny's house and found that Granny had been eaten. She was told by the adult telling the story that going out alone was dangerous and that "wolves" it whatever clothes they might wear were a source of danger.

We now hear that "wolves" are a misunderstood minority - not being able to enjoy a meal of three piglets due to adverse circumstances - and should be respected as victims.

There is a need to stand back (as Mr Peterson? does) to assess every set of comments from every source.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 21 Feb 19 11.27am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wasn't though engaging with the attitudes on display in the other threads and nor will I. I was commenting in this one on the obsession with racism.

I do care about the rising level of open racism in society but recognise that it's pointless trying to debate it here, as your response so aptly confirms. There are more effective ways of combating this trend than attempting a discourse with brick walls.

I do like Hol and get a lot of information here but am ashamed to read the political views of the far right cabal who populate this section.

Bless your heart. If you ask nicely, I'm sure the site owners will create your very own safe space to shield you from all the nasty, nasty men who disagree with you.

Do you have any idea of how pathetic you sound?

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Feb 19 11.58am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wasn't though engaging with the attitudes on display in the other threads and nor will I. I was commenting in this one on the obsession with racism.

I do care about the rising level of open racism in society but recognise that it's pointless trying to debate it here, as your response so aptly confirms. There are more effective ways of combating this trend than attempting a discourse with brick walls.

I do like Hol and get a lot of information here but am ashamed to read the political views of the far right cabal who populate this section.

Self righteous alert.

Give yourself a break Wisbech, you are sounding like a bit of a loon.

I think you will find that there are no obsessions here.

What we have on this site is a balance of views and some people who for some reason think that others are not entitled to an opinion.

I never see any race related discussions on here. All I see is people using the word 'racist', which in almost every case is completely inaccurate, in conversations about immigration, identity politics or religion.

These are subjects that have become daily news because of mass immigration and related world affairs.

Would you like it if no one was allowed to discuss these topics?

Is squashing debate and silencing opinion your game?

Sounds like it.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 21 Feb 19 12.30pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No-one should ever respect or tolerate racism or the attitudes that spring from it.

It ought to be a red line in every society that wishes to be respected itself.

What's the desire for 20% colour wash about then?

You are a strange bloke.

 

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

What's the desire for 20% colour wash about then?

You are a strange bloke.

Every football fan knows that racism has to be kicked out.

So why is it being promoted here on a football forum.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Feb 19 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Every football fan knows that racism has to be kicked out.

So why is it being promoted here on a football forum.

Get the nurse to loosen you restraints and tell me where racism has been promoted on this site.

You can't just say these things and not back them up with evidence.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 21 Feb 19 1.23pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Indeed and would the 'far right cabal' like to meet the Palace Football team to explain their views in person?

Far right = homophobic, anti semitic, condoning violence, militaristic, censorship of debate, eugenics, white supremacy (except for african far-right found in africa), holocaust denial, pro capital punishment for murderers, etc etc.

not seen any of that on here.

Far left = calling everybody 'wacist', anti patriotic, open doors immigration, Corbyn's antisemitism, attacking the Nuclear Family, defending organised pakistani Paedo gangs, bonkers gender re-defining linguistic panagyrics, EU monolithic superstate supporting, militant egalitarianism, approval of the Swedish welfare State disaster, hating of heterosexual able-bodied conservative white men, disapproval of 'stop-and-search' for urban youth gangs, the insistence that islam is perfectly compatible with western society,

not much of that on HOL neither, but you may find the latter on another Palace fansite.

both ideologies are potentially troublesome.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (21 Feb 2019 1.41pm)

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 21 Feb 19 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wasn't though engaging with the attitudes on display in the other threads and nor will I. I was commenting in this one on the obsession with racism.

I do care about the rising level of open racism in society but recognise that it's pointless trying to debate it here, as your response so aptly confirms. There are more effective ways of combating this trend than attempting a discourse with brick walls.

I do like Hol and get a lot of information here but am ashamed to read the political views of the far right cabal who populate this section.

Attitudes within society are set or change and alter due to realities within an indiviual's environment. Every action has a reaction.

What you regard as racism and what you regard as a 'forum' that fits your worldview enough to be acceptable means nothing. Your worldview as no right to a hegemony over anyone else's worldview. So you being frustrated that you aren't changing opinions just tells me you don't understand that.

You are no one's moral authority but your own.

Now, do what you said and head off and form your own morally acceptable forum. I hope you have a nice life containing many wonderful life affirming experiences.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2019 1.47pm)

 


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View LeeG's Profile LeeG Flag London 21 Feb 19 1.47pm Send a Private Message to LeeG Add LeeG as a friend

I used to frequent this website all of the time, albeit as a lurker. I'd read posts about transfer rumours, team line ups, general Palace news and always dipped into the general other chat.

Now I don't bother. It's basically become an forum where a select few members spout often ridiculous, exaggerated, false or downright offensive opinions and gang up on anybody who disagrees. I've actually seen the website discussed elsewhere as a cesspit of hard right views.

Palace is a multicultural, welcoming club, with people from all backgrounds but you sure as hell wouldn't know it from this forum. I rarely come here now and can't stand that the topics here are a reflection of the club that I know.

I'm sure I'll get the expected attacks on this from the usual suspects.

 

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