You have my full support and millions of others too..........I should have added the words ‘I suspect’. My assumption is based on what I have personally absorbed on this subject and approximately how I reckon 65 million people are divided on it. Even if only 5% support Stirling’s view (and I suspect it is the majority by the way) my comment was on safe ground. Very safe.

My apologies for the confusion

Any vacancies at Guantanamo?

Red and Blue Army!

You do realise she was one of the ISIS enforcers don't you? More like she forced other girls to do things.
However, I will agree that she was groomed online originally.

Red and Blue Army!

Your arrogance is well documented on here, however in this case it is only matched by your ignorance. I have read all the thread and taken nothing out of context. She DID have a family to teach her right from wrong, they chose not to. having an uncle that attends hate rally's spouting death to west nonsense didn't help matters I'm sure.

But that's the point isn't it. Why isn't there hoards of white Christian disenfranchised kids joining IS ? could it be that the doctrine of each religion is wildly different ? Could it be that her family or certainly members of it where complicit in her running away and joining IS ?

For the record she wasn't some poor little girl handed round like a piece of meat, she was privy to torture and executions and clearly was proud of her actions.

Mark my words she'll pop on you tube in few years when she's an adult inciting more bollocks.

please tell me what "many" Muslim countries you've worked in. I'm interested because I've worked in a few, probably in a different capacity to you though.

Edited by Dannyh.V2 (20 Sep 2019 1.23pm)

It's good you have read the thread. So you will be aware, but perhaps have forgotten, that I did not say she had no family.

In response to ''I suspect her parents had done that over the years, didn't take much notice did she.'' I wrote ''Her mother died. Her father, with whom she was not living, had to take over her upbringing. I doubt he understood or communicated with her well''.

It is also good you have read all about this lady when she was a little girl. I could, however, find no mention of a radicalising uncle. Perhaps she was influenced by Sharmeena Begum's uncle, Shamim Miah, who is a devout Muslim. They are not related to Shamima Begum.

From your reading of the thread you will also have noted that I stated I have little sympathy for Shamima Begum -''I have no great empathy with her. However, she would appear to be our problem and one we should not shirk.''

Whilst I know she spoke unemotionally about seeing severed heads in a bin, I was not aware that ''she was privy to torture and executions and clearly was proud of her actions.'' I would be interested to read the source of this information.

By the way, Begum's husband was indeed a disenfranchised Christian kid who converted to Islam.

And finally, in order of the length of time I spent there:

Saudi Arabia
Brunei
Malaysia
Bahrain
Dubai

I also worked with - but not in - Kuwait during the crisis, having a number of people hidden in domestic ventilation systems throughout that time.

Edited by Mapletree (21 Sep 2019 2.54pm)