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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 19 Feb 19 7.32pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

But we as the public cant expect a referendum on every law change.

I think the Swiss vote on all the important ones.

I wouldn't have our system as it currently is as I think it's out of date, but I take your point.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 19 Feb 19 7.46pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think the Swiss vote on all the important ones.

I wouldn't have our system as it currently is as I think it's out of date, but I take your point.

The swiss way is ok but it is very subjective.
Who determines what is important as some things are to certain people and others its not and visa versa.
If the mps still determine whats important it really is status quo.

 

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 19 Feb 19 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Funny how the likes of Chuka Umunna wants another Brexit vote.

But he doesn't want a second vote himself in terms of a by-election.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Feb 19 8.58pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

It's OK LAbourites.

Red Derek Hatton is back.

Should be a good indication of where Labour is heading under JC.

Odd that they now embrace communists and yet abandon their lifetime working class supporters in favour of the immigrant vote.
They are obviously planning for a future where immigrants and their offspring decide who runs the country.

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 19 Feb 19 10.05pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's OK LAbourites.

Red Derek Hatton is back.

Should be a good indication of where Labour is heading under JC.

Odd that they now embrace communists and yet abandon their lifetime working class supporters in favour of the immigrant vote.
They are obviously planning for a future where immigrants and their offspring decide who runs the country.

Can't immigrants be working class? The reason I ask is that the Labour party has always tried to appeal to immigrants.

Edited by johnno42000 (19 Feb 2019 10.10pm)

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Feb 19 10.23pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Funny how the likes of Chuka Umunna wants another Brexit vote.

But he doesn't want a second vote himself in terms of a by-election.

Starts a breakaway party when a few years ago he didnít want to stand as leader when he could have been and lead the party his way. But he wasnít ready. As if you get to choose when you are in politics, like in top football club management.

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 20 Feb 19 9.27am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Agree. The irony of these f***ers demanding a second referendum but ruling out a by election.

One even said: "the last thing anyone wants is another election".

I hadn't heard that, it actually made me laugh out loud!

 


It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Feb 19 9.50am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

Can't immigrants be working class? The reason I ask is that the Labour party has always tried to appeal to immigrants.

Edited by johnno42000 (19 Feb 2019 10.10pm)

The influx of immigrants is not in the interests of the existing population especially the 'working class'.
Labour is championing their interests at the expense of the traditional voter.
It is not surprising that a party wishes to get elected but everyone should understand that if you are White and working class you no longer matter.
It should confirm to anyone still in doubt that the existing population is in decline while immigrant populations will soar.

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 20 Feb 19 9.57am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The influx of immigrants is not in the interests of the existing population especially the 'working class'.
Labour is championing their interests at the expense of the traditional voter.
It is not surprising that a party wishes to get elected but everyone should understand that if you are White and working class you no longer matter.
It should confirm to anyone still in doubt that the existing population is in decline while immigrant populations will soar.

Interesting points you raise.

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 20 Feb 19 10.01am Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The influx of immigrants is not in the interests of the existing population especially the 'working class'.
Labour is championing their interests at the expense of the traditional voter.
It is not surprising that a party wishes to get elected but everyone should understand that if you are White and working class you no longer matter.
It should confirm to anyone still in doubt that the existing population is in decline while immigrant populations will soar.

No, Labour are attempting to champion their interests as well as those of migrants who currently live in this country.

Raise the minimum wage, increase social security, build hundreds of thousands more homes, stop NHS privatisation and respect the referendum result. What more do you want them to do?

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Feb 19 11.26am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

How about that, tory defections too.....

Will Javid revoke their citizenship?

Anyway looks like a group of quite sensible people.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 20 Feb 19 12.37pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

With the state of our politics right now I really don't blame people for jumping ship from either party

 

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