It’s the type of people and the behaviour the film is attracting to the cinema, pure and simple. No machete fights, the film stays.

If hooligan films had rival firms fighting at the cinema or mafia films had people being shot or necks cut with cheese wire they’d pull those films as well. British clubs were banned from Europe. If people can’t behave and bring danger to the public then don’t complain when privileges are taken away. That’s what should be happening at home anyway.

Bored of hearing people not in agreement with consequences for their actions and laughed when the director complained about his film being pulled. Happy to make money out of his target demographic, who when they can’t behave as he no doubt directs in his film, it hurts him creatively and financially. Well fvck me, how on Earth is he surprised?

This whole scene has a very small audience and doesn’t fit into a civilised society so deal with it, and it being dealt with should be happening more. Again, we aren’t surprised at the event and the response to the pulling of the film.

Your whole post is based on the idea that the little s***s were there to see that movie - they weren’t. All were too young and the incidient took place after a screening of Frozen 2. As much as people would love this to be a bunch of pumped up kids having just watched the film getting into a knife fight, it’s just not even close to the reality.

You mention hypotheticals with other films, what about a bloke in a batman mask shooting up a cinema during a batman screening? [Link]

The history of violence in movies is such that it’s almost parody to suggest this one specific branch is somehow so much more dangerous than any other.

Are people now expecting a load of stabbings at Odeon over the next few weeks as they continue to show the movie?

To be clear, I’m not defending anyone wielding a machete, and to suggest I am is pathetic - I am criticising the decision of Vue cinemas, not defending kids. Poor form.

The fact you believe this ‘subset of the underclass is more dangerous than any before it’ shows you’ve just bought the narrative entirely. More dangerous than the mafia? The Cartel? Organised crime throughout history, including the U.K., makes a mockery of that claim.

How many incidients are you expecting at Odeon who are still showing the film? If there is none, does it not suggest the decision by Vue was premature?

It is telling that the usual passionate defenders of free speech and haters of censorship are no where to be seen on this one.

It is not that the content of the film encourages this behaviour but that this behaviour already exists and these scumbags flock to see a shared interest or culture. Big difference. The way of life is already rife in their areas. The film just brings them together. Odeon are showing it with heightened security. Hardly confident that the scumbags who will come can behave, are they?

What have the mafia etc got to do with 1) cinema goers and 2) the streets of London and Birmingham? We’ve never had this problem in Britain with people who have absolutely no respect for anything or anybody. I cannot remember a subset murdering people on the streets of London at this level because of:

Drugs
They live in a different postcode
They’re upbringing is appalling
The community take no responsibility
Just because they had an argument
Or the worst, that a boy is visiting a relative so he gets chased into a corner and stabbed dozens of times.

You’re diverting attention and the issue away from this filth who are now a danger to the public and onto the cinemas protecting the public. Someone else’s fault.

It's funded by the BBC so at some point no doubt they will show it on TV, its a 15.

Vue are a commercial organisation and can show what they like. They say there have been 28 incidents so I guess it's more trouble to them than it's worth. The film originally was a based on a youtube video and gained a cult following there. Perhaps streaming then is the answer for the target audience.

I am not saying that movies cause violence I am saying that some movies attract violence which is not the same thing.* This is nothing new, when Rock Around the Clock was shown in America there was widespread youth fighting. If you have ever seen that movies it's as white as bread.

To suggest that the violence in Birmingham wasn't connected to the film being shown is like the FA taking no action against football fans fighting in the streets near the ground as unrelated.

The movie should not be banned and hasn't been some cinema chains have made a commercial decision to show it others haven't. The other day I was at the cinema with a friend we were the only 2 people at that screening. If the chain pulled that movie no doubt the film makers would object but would you blame them. There is no right to show a film at a cinema and plenty are made that go straight to video as they can't get a release.

As to the idea the decision is racist that idea itself is racist. Not all black people are gangsters and not all gangsters are black so those on twitter saying that are wrong. Black culture is not all about celebrating street gangs and violence.

*It's the equivalent of meet you behind the bike sheds or McDonalds after school.

Edited by Badger11 (26 Nov 2019 7.45am)