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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Dec 19 12.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

That was shockingly low!!
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I think the kind of people who approve of a role for capital punishment don't tend to be the 'activist' types and that's very much an 'activist' type website.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Dec 19 7.54am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

That was shockingly low!!
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Morally I am not against capital punishment but those for it need to be honest it's not justice it's judicial revenge. I don't believe it prevents crime it does save the taxpayer money.

Who decides if it is a capital case?
Is this up to a jury?
If capital cases are for say the murder of a policemen then it becomes like a hate crime. Justice is not equal because there are special victims e.g. kill a cancer nurse you get life kill a copper you get the noose.

So I would need to see the practical steps as to how it would work but if reasonable I would be okay with it.

However I would prefer tougher sentences like most people.


 


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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 27 Dec 19 8.21am Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I think the kind of people who approve of a role for capital punishment don't tend to be the 'activist' types and that's very much an 'activist' type website.

Referendum anyone?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Dec 19 9.18am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by sickboy

Referendum anyone?

I think that type of Tory party went in the sixties.

They slowly moved towards the left's social policies possibly due to greater female involvement.....and in the last ten years it's been a sprint and needs radical reversing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Dec 2019 9.18am)

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 27 Dec 19 11.15am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Morally I am not against capital punishment but those for it need to be honest it's not justice it's judicial revenge. I don't believe it prevents crime it does save the taxpayer money.

Who decides if it is a capital case?
Is this up to a jury?
If capital cases are for say the murder of a policemen then it becomes like a hate crime. Justice is not equal because there are special victims e.g. kill a cancer nurse you get life kill a copper you get the noose.

So I would need to see the practical steps as to how it would work but if reasonable I would be okay with it.

However I would prefer tougher sentences like most people.


 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 27 Dec 19 11.19am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Sorry pressed post before I had written....doh

I am against capital punishment only because of the very rare occasion when they might get their decision wrong. However I am a fan of hard labour and believe that all lifers should earn their keep in full by working on the roads, train lines or other capital projects. Sitting on your arse watching tv is not really punishment.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Dec 19 6.08am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I am a fan of hard labour and believe that all lifers should earn their keep in full by working on the roads, train lines or other capital projects.

Bring back the chain gangs

Seriously though I have always liked the idea of proper community service but one of the major problems is that free labour will increase unemployment

 

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Originally posted by Badger11


Morally I am not against capital punishment but those for it need to be honest it's not justice it's judicial revenge. I don't believe it prevents crime it does save the taxpayer money.

Who decides if it is a capital case?
Is this up to a jury?
If capital cases are for say the murder of a policemen then it becomes like a hate crime. Justice is not equal because there are special victims e.g. kill a cancer nurse you get life kill a copper you get the noose.

So I would need to see the practical steps as to how it would work but if reasonable I would be okay with it.

However I would prefer tougher sentences like most people.

The judge would decide.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Dec 19 2.12pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Bring back the chain gangs

Seriously though I have always liked the idea of proper community service but one of the major problems is that free labour will increase unemployment

Free prisoner labour can be used to perform the tasks that the marketplace is reluctant to financially justify. Any public sector work for example. Tending the flowerbeds in the Parks, sweeping the streets, painting public buildings.

Prisoners who are not physically healthy enough to do manual work should be given data-entry type jobs.

all good for the taxpayer.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Dec 19 5.27pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Free prisoner labour can be used to perform the tasks that the marketplace is reluctant to financially justify. Any public sector work for example. Tending the flowerbeds in the Parks, sweeping the streets, painting public buildings.

Prisoners who are not physically healthy enough to do manual work should be given data-entry type jobs.

all good for the taxpayer.

They could produce free electricity by riding bikes with dynamos. An initiative brought to you by the Green Party and Extinction Rebellion.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Dec 19 5.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They could produce free electricity by riding bikes with dynamos. An initiative brought to you by the Green Party and Extinction Rebellion.

I've produced electricity riding a few bikes in my time.

Wasn't much help to the national grid though.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Dec 19 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

In terms of putting prisoners to work......I would have thought it best to direct it towards charities.....though obviously all this has been considered and implemented many many decades ago.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Dec 2019 5.42pm)

 


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