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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Mar 19 6.08pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Because to non Palace supporting outsiders Crystal Palace is not sexy. Simple as that. If this was the 80s or 90s sure, we could buy our way up the table, bribe council officials all the way to a sw***y super stadium, pay what ever it took to make it all happen like Blackburn Rovers and the fanbase would grow and the trophies would stack up.
We are not close to the centre of the city, on the Kings road or in any way attractive to a Billionaire who wants to build a club from the ground up. To someone with no affilliation to Palace the foundations are not even attractive enough.
Thats why. I'm afraid you are either to bias in Palace's favour or too romantic if you think otherwise.
I am sorry to burst your bubble but we will NEVER be able to sustainably compete with Arsenal or Spurs and we only will with Chelsea if Abramovic walked away and took his money with him.

Ah, your posts are always glass half full eh!

In truth, were we to move to the National Sports Centre I think we could be sexy. The Crystal Palace area is getting pretty cool and the site has all sorts of great connotations. It's an area where you really could imagine a whole village growing up, with hotels and conference centres etc., like around the Chelsea ground.

Sadly, Selhurst doesn't stand much chance of ever being that. Much as I love it.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Mar 19 7.04pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, your posts are always glass half full eh!

In truth, were we to move to the National Sports Centre I think we could be sexy. The Crystal Palace area is getting pretty cool and the site has all sorts of great connotations. It's an area where you really could imagine a whole village growing up, with hotels and conference centres etc., like around the Chelsea ground.

Sadly, Selhurst doesn't stand much chance of ever being that. Much as I love it.

This is true.

It would take the purchase of housing and businesses around Selhurst Park to make it a first class arena.

It isn't really the best area for building anyway as it is in an old brickworks with sloping ground all around it.

The answer to all of this is money, as with most things.
I would be delighted if a super rich owner came in providing they wanted to build a first class team and facilities like Man City.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Mar 19 7.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Because to non Palace supporting outsiders Crystal Palace is not sexy. Simple as that. If this was the 80s or 90s sure, we could buy our way up the table, bribe council officials all the way to a sw***y super stadium, pay what ever it took to make it all happen like Blackburn Rovers and the fanbase would grow and the trophies would stack up.
We are not close to the centre of the city, on the Kings road or in any way attractive to a Billionaire who wants to build a club from the ground up. To someone with no affilliation to Palace the foundations are not even attractive enough.
Thats why. I'm afraid you are either to bias in Palace's favour or too romantic if you think otherwise.
I am sorry to burst your bubble but we will NEVER be able to sustainably compete with Arsenal or Spurs and we only will with Chelsea if Abramovic walked away and took his money with him.

I don't agree.
Palace is an affordable Premier League club. Anyone buying it who was super rich would only be interested in it as a promotional tool or a hobby. Therefore the success of the team and the image of the club would be paramount.
The location of the club does not matter to the millions who watch the PL on TV around the world.
the only thing holding up a transformation of the facilities is money and the practical issues around land purchase and building work.

I would favour a move away from South Norwood because I no longer live near there. The club would be best served by creating easy access to the most possible fans.
Somewhere near the M25 might be a possibility but Palace Park would do.
Anywhere with good road and rail links and some suitable land is an option.
We will never progress beyond where we are without crowds of more than 40K.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Mar 19 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Because to non Palace supporting outsiders Crystal Palace is not sexy. Simple as that. If this was the 80s or 90s sure, we could buy our way up the table, bribe council officials all the way to a sw***y super stadium, pay what ever it took to make it all happen like Blackburn Rovers and the fanbase would grow and the trophies would stack up.
We are not close to the centre of the city, on the Kings road or in any way attractive to a Billionaire who wants to build a club from the ground up. To someone with no affilliation to Palace the foundations are not even attractive enough.
Thats why. I'm afraid you are either to bias in Palace's favour or too romantic if you think otherwise.
I am sorry to burst your bubble but we will NEVER be able to sustainably compete with Arsenal or Spurs and we only will with Chelsea if Abramovic walked away and took his money with him.

Were Man City sexy? Or was Sheikh Mansour an Oasis walking Man City fan in any of his PALACES?

 


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View Dave58's Profile Dave58 Flag Ipswich 13 Mar 19 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Dave58 Add Dave58 as a friend

If we buy the Whitehorse end from Sainsburyís, think of the nectar points we will get. Enough to buy a decent striker.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Mar 19 9.25pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Were Man City sexy? Or was Sheikh Mansour an Oasis walking Man City fan in any of his PALACES?

Oh no.

Only 4 FA cup wins and a League Cup Winners Cup win when it was bought. Nothing to see here. Oh, and an absolutely massive fan base. It hosted the largest ever crowd in an English club ground.

 

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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag Corby 13 Mar 19 9.57pm Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

The day Palace become another soulless entity attracting glory hunters (beyond where we are now!) is it for me.

30 years in , and the year we lost the cup final it came home. That would have been the end of the chase.

Palace are the Trotters. The fun is the struggle.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Online Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Mar 19 12.26am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh no.

Only 4 FA cup wins and a League Cup Winners Cup win when it was bought. Nothing to see here. Oh, and an absolutely massive fan base. It hosted the largest ever crowd in an English club ground.

To quote you Maple 'I smell pee' massive fan base my ass & I supply their NYCMCFC supporters club. I remember them along with Spurs, Sporting Lisbon & NY Red Bulls playing in a four match tournament, they barely had 150/200 fans at Red Bull Arena. Spurs had some where in the region of 10X as many easily 2500/3000.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 14 Mar 19 8.50am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

I really dislike Man C and Chelsea because, unlike the other clubs at the top, I feel they are what they are thanks to the riches of owners who are using the clubs in part as PR vehicles.

So I can't want that for Palace. I think it would feel a little hollow and soulless to succeed that way. A 50,000 bowl stadium with 15,000 tourist fans. God no. That's just not the club I support.

Owners who are wealthy enough and smart enough to allow us to build, yes. Oligarchs, sheikhs, princes and potentates: no.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Mar 19 9.10am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I really dislike Man C and Chelsea because, unlike the other clubs at the top, I feel they are what they are thanks to the riches of owners who are using the clubs in part as PR vehicles.

So I can't want that for Palace. I think it would feel a little hollow and soulless to succeed that way. A 50,000 bowl stadium with 15,000 tourist fans. God no. That's just not the club I support.

Owners who are wealthy enough and smart enough to allow us to build, yes. Oligarchs, sheikhs, princes and potentates: no.

Without that money now we can always get relegated and knowing us the support will evaporate without many years in the Prem, and without the money, you canít guarantee many years in the Prem. By many I mean decades, not 7. I agree with what youíre saying but itís not possible unless loads of money is pumped in.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 14 Mar 19 9.37am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I really dislike Man C and Chelsea because, unlike the other clubs at the top, I feel they are what they are thanks to the riches of owners who are using the clubs in part as PR vehicles.

Are we any different as it often feels like Steve Parish uses Palace as a PR vehicle

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Online Flag Croydon 14 Mar 19 9.45am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Because to non Palace supporting outsiders Crystal Palace is not sexy. Simple as that. If this was the 80s or 90s sure, we could buy our way up the table, bribe council officials all the way to a sw***y super stadium, pay what ever it took to make it all happen like Blackburn Rovers and the fanbase would grow and the trophies would stack up.
We are not close to the centre of the city, on the Kings road or in any way attractive to a Billionaire who wants to build a club from the ground up. To someone with no affilliation to Palace the foundations are not even attractive enough.
Thats why. I'm afraid you are either to bias in Palace's favour or too romantic if you think otherwise.
I am sorry to burst your bubble but we will NEVER be able to sustainably compete with Arsenal or Spurs and we only will with Chelsea if Abramovic walked away and took his money with him.


You talk about Palace not being sexy, well if being sexy means most of our fan base comes from other parts of the country/world with no connection to us then I'd rather remain unsexy.

I want to support my local football club, not a global brand.

 


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