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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 16 Mar 19 10.25pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

I think he is the best of the 3 keepers. Trouble he had is those in front of him. He has confidence when Sakho and Tompkins are in front of him and that works the other way around with the back four knowing his game. The real problem is that the back four is now weak without Sakho. Not only is he missing but PVA isnít the player his was and Schlupp is only championship standard. Dann is better than Kelly but I donít think either of them are good enough to play alongside Tompkins the way Sakho does? Sakho will also play the ball out of defence better than they do. This helps the midfield in creating chances for the forwards. Today needed a front two, especially without Zaha playing so that the long ball out of defence had more chance of being won. We have Watford to much respect and should have had a go at them. Same as last week against Brighton. Hodgson got it wrong in both games for which he had done that before. In saying that he will hopefully get it right for Huddersfield because if he sticks with this style of play that doesnít work without Sakho then we are in trouble getting the 6 further points we need. Really donít think Hennessey would have made any difference today with that back four? The best of our keepers played today but he needs those in front of him and the correct style of play for us to get the results?

 

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View jjsperling's Profile jjsperling Flag 16 Mar 19 11.21pm Send a Private Message to jjsperling Add jjsperling as a friend

Had an absolutely horrendous game today. I still favour him over Wayne but if he continues to get bullied in his area like that. Might need to look to Wayne

 

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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Moved Again.. Banstead now Darling... 17 Mar 19 2.07am Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

Mods try not to merge , I know you you don't like what I post but we has an absurd amount of posts on the Wayne Hennessey thread and this man deserves a post thread of his own if Wayne did .

Vicente loves the spectacular and looks good but today he was totally unconvincing and knocked us out of the
cup.

The first goal he conceded was abysmal and he has already stated his intentions of unsettling the whole defence earlier coming for a ball and giving it back to Watford and then punching ot trying to taking the cross off Wan Bissaka head.

Please don't state or try to say he did well with the near post saves , one which was straight at him , and one where he just had to raise his hand .
Add to this this other goals against West Spam and Man U conceded and previous to that , is he really a proper Premier keeper ?

But they were good saves... You've clearly never played in goal... In that situation you have to both, anticipate the cross and the near post shot... I'm sorry but I disagree with you... The one handed save especially was a very good save.

 


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View Norway's Profile Norway Flag Sandnes,Norway 17 Mar 19 7.26am Send a Private Message to Norway Add Norway as a friend

We would have been in the draw for the semi with Wayne in goal

 


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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 17 Mar 19 9.27am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Probably the most talented of our keepers, but Jesus, he scared me yesterday, so can't imagine how our defenders feel. Surely he's had enough time to 'gel' with the defence?

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 17 Mar 19 10.48am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

I thought he had a very poor game. He seems to have no idea how to deal with a high cross ball into the box. He is a decent shot stopper. I wouldnít be surprised to see Wayne between the sticks against the terriors

 

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View HolmesdaleUpper's Profile HolmesdaleUpper Flag Sanderstead 17 Mar 19 10.59am Send a Private Message to HolmesdaleUpper Add HolmesdaleUpper as a friend

Good Keeper but a lot of foreign (particularly Spanish) keepers struggle with crosses when they first arrive in the Premier league. Look at David de Gea, would anyone turn him down now?
Guaita needs time and patience. Something which is so often lacking on here.
The management recognised this against Burnley and are obviously working on it. Hodgson was criticised about playing Hennessy then but he got it spot on. It wouldn't be any surprise if it happens again this season if the opposition dictate it. Roy brought in Dean Kiely and last season he made a hell of a difference to WH who is to say he can't do the same for Guaita.

 

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View MKCPFC's Profile MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 17 Mar 19 11.02am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

But they were good saves... You've clearly never played in goal... In that situation you have to both, anticipate the cross and the near post shot... I'm sorry but I disagree with you... The one handed save especially was a very good save.

Yes good saves , but you would expect a decent keeper to save them , as I said he likes the spectacular.
His basics let him down yesterday and he cost us the vital first goal .
Perhaps a bit harsh as it was very windy, solidity and consistency make for a good keeper , and the ability to be spectacular when required makes for a great one.
Early days for him at Palace let's hope he settles down and becomes a great one for Palace.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 17 Mar 19 11.55am Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by jjsperling

Had an absolutely horrendous game today. I still favour him over Wayne but if he continues to get bullied in his area like that. Might need to look to Wayne

Letís not get carried away.

If even Guaita is not the answer, neither is Hennessey.

He had a mare coming for crosses and he looks like a keeper who has been told to do something he isnít comfortable with.

He needs to address that and be able to come and claim or sit tight as the situation demands.

If it wonít work out please letís not stumble forward into another campaign with Hennessey as number 1 - we would need to invest.

 


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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 17 Mar 19 12.12pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

Yes good saves , but you would expect a decent keeper to save them , as I said he likes the spectacular.
His basics let him down yesterday and he cost us the vital first goal .
Perhaps a bit harsh as it was very windy, solidity and consistency make for a good keeper , and the ability to be spectacular when required makes for a great one.
Early days for him at Palace let's hope he settles down and becomes a great one for Palace.

Just perhaps if we had tested the 38 year old Watford keeper with crosses that Guatia had to deal with yesterday then we would be in the semifinals. Truth is we put out a cautious team rather than one with Benteke (or even Wickham) alongside Batshuayi and that cost us.As did not having Sakho and Zaha which is why we should have gone for it with a different style of play?

 

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View alexdyoung87's Profile alexdyoung87 Flag Yorkshire 17 Mar 19 12.15pm Send a Private Message to alexdyoung87 Add alexdyoung87 as a friend

Letís all have a sense of perspective here. All goalkeepers will at some point misread a cross. Theyíve all done it. It was tough conditions yesterday with the wind and he made himself look a fool but heíll learn from it Iím sure.

For me, Guaita has done more than enough since coming into the team to indicate that he has quality. Not many people we quick to praise him when we won consecutive games were they?

I think far too often fans for some reason think we should have the perfect players. I donít know why they think weíd attract them or even be able to afford them! To many Palace fans are getting above their stations.

Developing a squad can take a number of seasons. Reflect on our squad of 5/6 years ago and look at the quality we have now. Guaita is an good addition and even if we went and spent £30 million on a goalkeeper, they too may well have misjudged the same cross yesterday that led to their first.

Iím sure players pick up on negativity. Itís up to us as fans to to give them a lift.

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 17 Mar 19 12.48pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

VG has had a number of poor games. Of the top of my head, there was the DeBruynne goal at Man City, he should have stopped Kante's goal for Chelsea, he rashly gave WHU their penalty, he was poor against Man U (didn't move for 2 of their goals - as he didn't for Watford's winner yesterday). Also his kicking if awful. Apart from that he's great!!!

 

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