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Originally posted by ChrisGC

There's less humiliating ways to throw a fight.

But perhaps not as convincing.

Now he has a nice big pay day at Wembley for his Christmas bonus.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 02 Jun 19 5.02pm

I think Joshua is guilty of the following:
1) Surrounding himself with the wrong people. He has an entorage, concerns himself with a lot of commercial commitments and social media. I believe the inside scoop Mortygrump has about his training.
2) He's not conditioned probably. Ruiz has more rolls than Greggs and he mullered AJ who is built like a brick s***house. He was blowing like f***, gulping for air like a landed carp! He wasn't ring ready.

3) Eddie Hearn has mismanaged his career and AJ needs to ditch him. f***ing about not getting the big name fights, underselling him in the big fights, overselling him in the small fights. He's a f***ing leach. His two Bob ganster old man landed a deal with sky to provide a stable of fighters 10 years ago and all the idiot son had to do was not f*** it up, well he has. Nobody buys his bull s***, nor do they swallow his crap match ups anymore.

That said, it's only AJ in that ring, none of the above so the rebuild starts with the mirror first.

Shame coz he seems a top bloke, top athlete and massive talent.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Jun 19 7.13pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I have stated before that Joshua is 'Brunoesque' in that he is muscle bound and some of their boxing characteristics are similar.

Apart from the last fight of his career, against Tyson, Bruno always won his next fight after a defeat.If Joshua doesn't win his next fight then it is hard to see any future for him in the top echelons of the heavyweight division.

 

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Originally posted by Willo

I have stated before that Joshua is 'Brunoesque' in that he is muscle bound and some of their boxing characteristics are similar.

Apart from the last fight of his career, against Tyson, Bruno always won his next fight after a defeat.If Joshua doesn't win his next fight then it is hard to see any future for him in the top echelons of the heavyweight division.

As much as I've enjoyed the AJ show.....I won't be too sad for him if he loses the rematch.....purely because this guy is as rich as they come....which isn't a criticism, just an acknowledgement that this guy's just in it for the glory at this point.

Worth around 40 million when I last looked with multi million pound endorsements......His family are sorted for generations.


Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jun 2019 7.28pm)

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 02 Jun 19 7.33pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

I think Joshua is guilty of the following:
1) Surrounding himself with the wrong people. He has an entorage, concerns himself with a lot of commercial commitments and social media. I believe the inside scoop Mortygrump has about his training.
2) He's not conditioned probably. Ruiz has more rolls than Greggs and he mullered AJ who is built like a brick s***house. He was blowing like f***, gulping for air like a landed carp! He wasn't ring ready.

3) Eddie Hearn has mismanaged his career and AJ needs to ditch him. f***ing about not getting the big name fights, underselling him in the big fights, overselling him in the small fights. He's a f***ing leach. His two Bob ganster old man landed a deal with sky to provide a stable of fighters 10 years ago and all the idiot son had to do was not f*** it up, well he has. Nobody buys his bull s***, nor do they swallow his crap match ups anymore.

That said, it's only AJ in that ring, none of the above so the rebuild starts with the mirror first.

Shame coz he seems a top bloke, top athlete and massive talent.


How on earth has Eddie Hearn mismanaged AJ's career?

A promoters job is to earn money for himself and his fighters. AJ has probably earned more money so far in his pro career than all the other top 9 heavyweights in the world all put together!

Please tell which promoter you think he should have signed for? Warren, Hennessy?

As for Hearn offering crap match ups, I guess you have never been to a Frank Warren show? Matchroom (with SKYs money) have pretty much reinvented boxing in this country where as its been dying a death in the States for years. Not saying Hearn is perfect etc but to say he has mismanaged AJ's career is simply not true. For your information AJ earned around $57 million last year alone.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Jun 19 8.48pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have stated before that Joshua is 'Brunoesque' in that he is muscle bound and some of their boxing characteristics are similar.

Apart from the last fight of his career, against Tyson, Bruno always won his next fight after a defeat.If Joshua doesn't win his next fight then it is hard to see any future for him in the top echelons of the heavyweight division.

That's one thing AJ isn't & that's Bruno. Say what you like about Big Frank but he went in with some of the best fighters in the world at that time.
If Bruno was still boxing he'd of cleaned up this division yonks ago

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 02 Jun 19 9.11pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


It's all an act from AJ nothing to do with not having passion inside he would of been shocked.

AJ has been sleep walking for a long time and been looked after this is why he really has not gone up against the likes of Fury/Wilder Eddie Hearn is the problem.

A few people I know that have been in boxing game for long time have been saying his training is all wrong he should be improving boxing skills yet he is going backwards way to stiff like a robot burning of too much energy with carrying too much muscle.

Apollo Creed vs Rocky Balboa, 1976. Complacency. Just saying.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 02 Jun 19 9.15pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

That's one thing AJ isn't & that's Bruno. Say what you like about Big Frank but he went in with some of the best fighters in the world at that time.
If Bruno was still boxing he'd of cleaned up this division yonks ago

If Bruno was around today he would be ranked somewhere between 4th and 8th best in the world. Much the same as he was for most of his career. Can you honestly imagine glass jawed Frank on the end of one of Wilders punches?

 


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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

If Bruno was around today he would be ranked somewhere between 4th and 8th best in the world. Much the same as he was for most of his career. Can you honestly imagine glass jawed Frank on the end of one of Wilders punches?

I have to agree really. He's someone we took into our hearts as a nation, but when push comes to shove he struggled against the very best.

 

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'Why am I feeling like this?': Dazed and bloodied Anthony Joshua's worrying words to trainer Rob McCracken during his shock defeat by Andy Ruiz Jnr - [Link]

 

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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

If Bruno was around today he would be ranked somewhere between 4th and 8th best in the world. Much the same as he was for most of his career. Can you honestly imagine glass jawed Frank on the end of one of Wilders punches?

Bruno wasn't 'glass jawed'.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 02 Jun 19 9.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Bruno wasn't 'glass jawed'.

Well he certainly wasn't iron jawed. All his losses coming by KO. Once hit he froze like a rabbit caught in headlights.

Loved Frank but he was really only a fringe contender.

 


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